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Interwar period, Upper Silesia,Poland. Please help to date photographs.
« on: Saturday 11 August 18 23:25 BST (UK) »
Hello there.
Can you please help me to date these photographs below? They must've be taken in the interwar period but some more precise dating would be helpful. These photographs are smaller than C6 envelope.The last one is even 50% smaller. Many thanks!







Wackermann
Molatta
Cuber
Cygan
Biela
Bielawski
Leibiniec
Dubeński
Wicher
Duzinkiewicz

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Re: Interwar period, Upper Silesia,Poland. Please help to date photographs.
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 14 August 18 18:46 BST (UK) »
The caps the gentlemen wear in the first picture look very similar to the Volunteers of the Polish Military Organization, Upper Silesia 1919-1921. But it's really hard to tell as I can only find drawn examples of the standard uniform.

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Re: Interwar period, Upper Silesia,Poland. Please help to date photographs.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 August 18 20:20 BST (UK) »
The caps the gentlemen wear in the first picture look very similar to the Volunteers of the Polish Military Organization, Upper Silesia 1919-1921. But it's really hard to tell as I can only find drawn examples of the standard uniform.

My two cents so far.

Thank you sir! You are so right! My great great grandfather (second from right) was a member of Polish Military Organization and a Silesian insurgent.
You are a very first person ever to recognize this cap. Can you please share the source of these examples?
Below is slightly better photo of this cap

Wackermann
Molatta
Cuber
Cygan
Biela
Bielawski
Leibiniec
Dubeński
Wicher
Duzinkiewicz

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Re: Interwar period, Upper Silesia,Poland. Please help to date photographs.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 14 August 18 20:51 BST (UK) »
As a study of the world wars, it did trigger a few memories. Based on your info I did some looking to confirm what I thought it was. I kept one of the pages open, so here's a link to a photo from a Pintrest page that seems to have scanned pages from a military uniform history compendium or some such thing.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/c4/af/a8/c4afa89533bf39ca38a62483e6183acc--ww-uniforms-military-uniforms.jpg

and the actual page:

https://www.pinterest.se/0ljbetg0912nq47/rusos/


Also, I hope you will enjoy a restoration of the second image you posted.


I just like to do photo restores.


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Re: Interwar period, Upper Silesia,Poland. Please help to date photographs.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 14 August 18 22:26 BST (UK) »
Wow! Great job on the restoration of the gentleman DrDude.  :)

(I was looking at this - I have, untraceable, Polish people to find................)
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Interwar period, Upper Silesia,Poland. Please help to date photographs.
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 14 August 18 22:37 BST (UK) »
Looking at the women's fashions, a guess at the date - possibly 20s/30s?

Someone will probably be able to narrow that down further.

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Re: Interwar period, Upper Silesia,Poland. Please help to date photographs.
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 14 August 18 23:11 BST (UK) »
Wow! Great job on the restoration of the gentleman DrDude.  :)

(I was looking at this - I have, untraceable, Polish people to find................)

Glad you're happy. Here's the first pic with all the soldiers. Hope you like it.
I just like to do photo restores.

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Re: Interwar period, Upper Silesia,Poland. Please help to date photographs.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 15 August 18 15:27 BST (UK) »
DrDude - mamy thanks. Good job with the restoration.

Wow! Great job on the restoration of the gentleman DrDude.  :)

(I was looking at this - I have, untraceable, Polish people to find................)

Who are you looking for in Poland? Perhaps I could help.
Wackermann
Molatta
Cuber
Cygan
Biela
Bielawski
Leibiniec
Dubeński
Wicher
Duzinkiewicz

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Re: Interwar period, Upper Silesia,Poland. Please help to date photographs.
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 15 August 18 18:41 BST (UK) »
Wow! Great job on the restoration of the gentleman DrDude.  :)

(I was looking at this - I have, untraceable, Polish people to find................)

I was thinking about this and it could be very difficult as the Germans displaced a lot of the Polish people from the area during WW2. Combined with the fact they were soldiers, it could be that they might have been killed in the attack. Even at an advanced age, a proud partisan soldier would have taken up arms to defend, even against an overwhelming force.

As such you might look through KIA records, POW records and even records of the Auschwitz I camp in Upper Silesia. That signature may help a bit as well.

My two cents.
I just like to do photo restores.