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Help Needed Again Please
« on: Monday 13 August 18 00:39 BST (UK) »
A few years age the people on this site helped me break down a brick wall for a friend. I am hoping for help again with the family.

Here is the link to the original post. I feel it may help

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=724186.msg5718585#msg5718585

We have found out a few things since.
Harry Ryan & Edith May Neal finally married 26 May 1911 in the Roman Catholic Church in St. Heliers, Jersey.

Their children Daniel, and Ethel were presented at the service and granted legitimacy.

However, the marriage appears not to have lasted. Harry's WW1 file states he's married to Edith but her address is unknown. He lists Daniel and Ethel as children but also a son John 2 yrs old with guardian Mrs Cliff, 47? St. Katherines Rd?, Notting Hill.

This is crossed out so guessing not a legitimate child.

The family I'm trying to help would love to know who John aged 2 is. Did he have any children?
Have they a half family?

Any help would be greatly appreciated, but also realise we are getting into the "possible living" area.

We also have no idea what happened to Harry or Edith after 1911.

Here is WW1 record for those who have FindMyPast, can't find it on Ancestry.

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f007258196%2f00146&parentid=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f7258196%2f17%2f146


Thank you in advance

Geoff



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Re: Help Needed Again Please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 13 August 18 02:04 BST (UK) »
But notice there is another guardian for child not named
Mrs J Ryall, 165 Portland Road, Notting Hill.

Looks as though it was added later

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Re: Help Needed Again Please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 13 August 18 07:38 BST (UK) »
Hello,

For those who do not have access to the record, what year would John be born and is there also another child (Mckha489’s post). Could Ryall be Ryan? Although I see it as a surname so maybe not.
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Re: Help Needed Again Please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 13 August 18 07:55 BST (UK) »
I hope this loads ok.

His WW1 file starts September 1914, so presumably if we assume the thick ink is the earlier entry then "John' was born between Sept 1911 and Sept 1912 and I was thinking that John is the same as 'Child".  But of course, could be wrong!


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« Reply #4 on: Monday 13 August 18 07:59 BST (UK) »
trying again for better quality image

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« Reply #5 on: Monday 13 August 18 08:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks - that’s much better :)
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Re: Help Needed Again Please
« Reply #6 on: Monday 13 August 18 09:11 BST (UK) »
In 1911 ,165 Portland Road was a lodging house run by Arthur and Katherine Strange.
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Re: Help Needed Again Please
« Reply #7 on: Monday 13 August 18 09:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Evey one,

I should have mentioned the second guardian in my original post, sorry.

It has always been assumed this is the same child, but this is open to debate.

Thanks for your interest in this, we have followed many a dead end on this and unfortunately can not really add any more  information.


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« Reply #8 on: Monday 13 August 18 09:19 BST (UK) »
Why is the information crossed through, I wonder.

Also what does that say/mean re the Bramley Road address?
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