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Richard Gibson d.1872
« on: Monday 13 August 18 16:50 BST (UK) »
Hi

I'm on the trail of my wife's 3 x Great Uncle, Richard Gibson (born Benton Square, Northumberland, England 1831).

He was the son of John Gibson and Ann Amour.

He is with the family in East Holywell, Earsdon, Northumberland as a coal miner 1841 and 1851.

He is nowhere to be found after 1851.

There are 2 deaths in Northumberland of Richard Gibson's between 1851 and 1861 but one of these is his elderly grandfather and the other one is his younger cousin.

His father and mother are buried in Earsdon and the gravestone also mentions Richard's younger brother (John Gibson 1833-1852) and a few other siblings but no mention of Richard. So if he died before his parents (1870 and 1872) he would almost certainly have been mentioned on the gravestone.

I was thinking did he join the British Army and maybe died in Crimea or India but I can't find him in a list of soldiers died overseas.

Or did he emigrate (I know his uncle John Swallow Amour emigrated to Pennsylvania, USA, as did his sister Frances Scorer (nee Gibson) and later on his niece Frances Jeffery (nee Gibson), but I can't find an obvious passenger list for him.

I have found a Richard Gibson drowned on the "John Temperley" in 1872 along with all hands when it sank on the journey from Baltimore to England.

Can anybody find anything on this Richard Gibson in case it is my wife's relative?

Thanks

Darin (Newcastle upon Tyne, England).
Mazzei/Mazzie - Stazzema (ITA); Cardiff; Bristol.
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Bugeja - Malta.
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Harris - Deal; Gillingham.
Morris - Ramsgate; St. Lawrence; Gillingham.
Stupples - Broadstairs; Ramsgate.
Lamb - Elswick; Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
Todd - Berwick; Burradon; Dudley (NBL).
Houston - Sunderland.
Gibson - East Holywell; Cramlington (NBL)

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Re: Richard Gibson d.1872
« Reply #1 on: Monday 13 August 18 17:13 BST (UK) »
Hi

I can tell you that the Richard Gibson, sailor,  that died in 1872 was aged 42 years, so was about the right age.

Just looking for any other record for him.

Claire
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Re: Richard Gibson d.1872
« Reply #2 on: Monday 13 August 18 17:16 BST (UK) »
Thanks Claire

That's great.

Thanks

Darin.
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Morris - Ramsgate; St. Lawrence; Gillingham.
Stupples - Broadstairs; Ramsgate.
Lamb - Elswick; Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
Todd - Berwick; Burradon; Dudley (NBL).
Houston - Sunderland.
Gibson - East Holywell; Cramlington (NBL)

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Re: Richard Gibson d.1872
« Reply #3 on: Monday 13 August 18 17:20 BST (UK) »
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I have found a Richard Gibson drowned on the "John Temperley" in 1872 along with all hands when it sank on the journey from Baltimore to England.

The John Temperley sailed from Sunderland, so that places it in the north-east which would fit  :-\
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.35112203984325;view=1up;seq=816
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Re: Richard Gibson d.1872
« Reply #4 on: Monday 13 August 18 17:22 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jen

That sounds promising.

Regards

Darin.
Mazzei/Mazzie - Stazzema (ITA); Cardiff; Bristol.
Bernardi - Tuscany (ITA); Cardiff; Boston (MA);
O'Keefe/O'Keeffe - Cardiff.
Svombo - Cardiff; London.
Mahoney - Newport; Cardiff.
Bugeja - Malta.
Godden - Faversham; London; Northumberland.
Harris - Deal; Gillingham.
Morris - Ramsgate; St. Lawrence; Gillingham.
Stupples - Broadstairs; Ramsgate.
Lamb - Elswick; Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
Todd - Berwick; Burradon; Dudley (NBL).
Houston - Sunderland.
Gibson - East Holywell; Cramlington (NBL)

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Re: Richard Gibson d.1872
« Reply #5 on: Monday 13 August 18 17:36 BST (UK) »
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I have found a Richard Gibson drowned on the "John Temperley" in 1872 along with all hands when it sank on the journey from Baltimore to England.

The John Temperley sailed from Sunderland, so that places it in the north-east which would fit  :-\
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.35112203984325;view=1up;seq=816

Sorry,  I'm wrong there. She was built in Sunderland but owned by someone in London. She was sailing from Baltimore to London when presumed lost with all hands.
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Re: Richard Gibson d.1872
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 18 September 18 08:46 BST (UK) »
Hi

I'm on the trail of my wife's 3 x Great Uncle, Richard Gibson (born Benton Square, Northumberland, England 1831).

He is nowhere to be found after 1851.

There are 2 deaths in Northumberland of Richard Gibson's between 1851 and 1861 but one of these is his elderly grandfather and the other one is his younger cousin.

Darin (Newcastle upon Tyne, England).


Newcastle Daily Chronicle, 17th June 1859

"FATAL ACCIDENT.- On Monday morning a party of men went out at Hartley on a fishing and shooting excursion. On their return about eleven o’clock, as one of them, named Gibson, belonging to Benton Square, was getting out of the boat, his gun went off, lodging the contents in his head, and killing him instantly. The deceased has left a wife and four children."

Unfortunately, no first name in the newspaper.

If they returned to Hartley and Death occurred there, his Death should be registered in the Registration District of Tynemouth.

Mark

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Re: Richard Gibson d.1872
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 18 September 18 09:10 BST (UK) »
Thanks Mark

That's worth chasing up

Regards

Darin.
Mazzei/Mazzie - Stazzema (ITA); Cardiff; Bristol.
Bernardi - Tuscany (ITA); Cardiff; Boston (MA);
O'Keefe/O'Keeffe - Cardiff.
Svombo - Cardiff; London.
Mahoney - Newport; Cardiff.
Bugeja - Malta.
Godden - Faversham; London; Northumberland.
Harris - Deal; Gillingham.
Morris - Ramsgate; St. Lawrence; Gillingham.
Stupples - Broadstairs; Ramsgate.
Lamb - Elswick; Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
Todd - Berwick; Burradon; Dudley (NBL).
Houston - Sunderland.
Gibson - East Holywell; Cramlington (NBL)

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Re: Richard Gibson d.1872
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 18 September 18 09:26 BST (UK) »
Hello

According to Free BMD and the corresponding image of the index page, no Richard Gibson, Death Registered in the Districts of Tynemouth (for Hartley) or District of Newcastle, for the Gibson of Benton Square, involved in the fatal shooting accident.

The newspaper piece said they left from Hartley, but no 100% confirmation of where they returned to.

Mark