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Somerset birth record request William LOVELL c1801-1806
« on: Tuesday 14 August 18 10:03 BST (UK) »
I am unable to find the birth of William Lovell.
1841 St Pancras Middx census says born out of county, age 35years (c 1801)
1851 St Pancras Middx census says born Somerset, age 50 years (c 1806)
I assume he died between 1851 and 1861 as not on 1861 or any later census.

occupation - marble mason

he married Agnes (Anne) Smith from Berwick upon Tweed by banns on 22 Nov 1826 at St Martins in the Fields, Westminster. (who was b1801, d1872).

they had 4 children all born in St Pancras, Middlesex.
William James Lovell 26 Feb 1827
John Colville Smith Lovell 1 July 1829
Harriet Lovell 14 October 1832
James Smith Lovell 1 April 1835

this is my first posting on Rootschat, so I apologise if this is not done correctly. I am following the female line, which is why I know all about my female ancestor, but not my male one.

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Re: Somerset birth recrd request William LOVELL c1801-1806
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 14 August 18 10:27 BST (UK) »
I am unable to find the birth of William Lovell.
1841 St Pancras Middx census says born out of county, age 35years (c 1801)
1851 St Pancras Middx census says born Somerset, age 50 years (c 1806)
I assume he died between 1851 and 1861 as not on 1861 or any later census.

occupation - marble mason

he married Agnes (Anne) Smith from Berwick upon Tweed by banns on 22 Nov 1826 at St Martins in the Fields, Westminster. (who was b1801, d1872).

they had 4 children all born in St Pancras, Middlesex.
William James Lovell 26 Feb 1827
John Colville Smith Lovell 1 July 1829
Harriet Lovell 14 October 1832
James Smith Lovell 1 April 1835


Hello and welcome to Rootschat  :)

Here are a few possibilities for a William Lovell baptism in Somerset
from Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1531-1812

William Lovell
Birth Date:   1 Jul
Baptism Date:   1 Aug 1802
Baptism Place:   Wells, St Cuthbert, Somerset, England
Father:   George Lovell
Mother:   Elizabeth Lovell

William Lovell
Baptism Date:   3 Mar 1805
Baptism Place:   Walcot St Swithin, Somerset, England
Father:   William Lovell
Mother:   Mary Lovell

William Lovel
Baptism Date:   30 Mar 1805
Baptism Place:   Queen Charlton, Somerset, England
Father:   Jas. Lovel
Mother:   Frances Lovel


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Re: Somerset birth record request William LOVELL c1801-1806
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 August 18 10:43 BST (UK) »

1841 St Pancras Middx census says born out of county, age 35years (c 1801)
1851 St Pancras Middx census says born Somerset, age 50 years     (c 1806)

I assume he died between 1851 and 1861 as not on 1861 or any later census.


As he was living in St Pancras on 1851 census there are these two entries on
GRO indexes which give an age at death but neither match exactly to dob on censuses

LOVELL, WILLIAM  age      43     
1853  S Quarter in ST PANCRAS  Volume 01B  Page 82   

LOVELL, WILLIAM age      63     
1860  D Quarter in PANCRAS  Volume 01B  Page 83   

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You could try Freereg as there are some baptisms in Somerset from 1797 persons named
William Lovell https://www.freereg.org.uk/


I also wonder if there's a link with their son John's middle name Colville - could this be a
a family name perhaps either William or Agnes mother's maiden name  :-\
edited I guess their son is named after Agnes' brother John Colvil Smith as there's a bpt 1801 same place as Agnes'

Is this Agnes' baptism?

Agnes Smith born 9 Apr 1799
Father:   James Smith   Mother:   Isbel
Baptism Date:   14 Apr 1799 Berwick-upon-Tweed, Northumberland
Denomination:   Scotch Church












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Re: Somerset birth record request William LOVELL c1801-1806
« Reply #3 on: Friday 17 August 18 12:46 BST (UK) »
my thanks to Ladyhawk. As I am on holiday for a couple of weeks I will reply in more detail then when I have all my records in front of me.
however, you are correct about my Agnes Lovell (smith) and have the correct family. I plan to post a question about them separately ( or should I add it to this stream)?


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Re: Somerset birth record request William LOVELL c1801-1806
« Reply #4 on: Friday 17 August 18 15:23 BST (UK) »
In the 1841 census the ages of adults were rounded down, so age 35 means age 35-39.

Best to start a new thread for Agnes since it is a different county. It gets confusing if there are different subjects in the same thread.

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Re: Somerset birth record request William LOVELL c1801-1806
« Reply #5 on: Friday 17 August 18 21:39 BST (UK) »
thanks for the info and advise about new thread, thought as much, but good to have it confirmed.