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Uniform Identification
« on: Tuesday 14 August 18 21:03 BST (UK) »
Greetings All,

Been trying like mad to identify the uniform in the attached image -- without success. This is not my photo, but it was posted to another board (antiques) that I frequent and the original poster gave me permission to post it elsewhere.

I've not been able to put together the stand up collar, the two pockets (not four) and the scalloped pocket flap. I've got some opinions, but nothing I'm 100% comfortable with.

Any assistance you can offer is greatly appreciated!!!

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Re: Uniform Identification
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 14 August 18 21:05 BST (UK) »
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Re: Uniform Identification
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 August 18 22:30 BST (UK) »
Hopefully someone will be able to make out the cap badge more successfully than I can. The uniform looks to be tropical kit, I may be totally wrong but I would say pre WW1, possibly soon  after the Boer War when pillbox hats were still worn.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Uniform Identification
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 14 August 18 23:36 BST (UK) »
Cap badge look's like King's Royal Rifle Corp's pre WW1 definitely as the shape changed to the cross
without the circular surround and although a B&W photo the cap's would be dark green as would the
inner colours of the arm stripes.
https://www.ebid.net/us/for-sale/british-army-kings-royal-rifle-corps-krrc-victorian-cap-badge-original-152839042.htm
Bland(Chester-le-street) Round(Dudley/Durham)Kirton(Gateshead)
Smith(Gateshead)Littleton(Sacriston)
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Re: Uniform Identification
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 15 August 18 05:58 BST (UK) »
KRRC served in the Anglo-Egyptian War in 1882. Also in the 1800s, the Regiment  was in China, Canada, Afghanistan, India, Burma and South Africa. 

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Re: Uniform Identification
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 15 August 18 09:34 BST (UK) »
The black buttons are (with the cap badge) also an indicator of KRRC.

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Re: Uniform Identification
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 15 August 18 14:20 BST (UK) »
Thank you everyone for such fast response! It is a great assistance to have people with actual knowledge (as opposed to my google skills) answering.

I do have a follow up question, without a clearer picture of the badge, how do you distinguish between the KRRC and the Prince Consort's Own Rifle Brigade? At first I thought it was the color of the uniforms (obviously not dark green), but a couple of older books suggests that the Rifle Brigade was also known to wear khaki.

Is it something specific about the uniform (such as the black buttons)? 

Thank you in advance.

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Re: Uniform Identification
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 16 August 18 02:56 BST (UK) »
From the information provided here and the brilliant detective work of a member of the original site where this was posted, we may have found an answer.  Possibly KRRC 3rd Battalion and Sergeant Arthur Harrington.  http://ww1.nam.ac.uk/stories/sergeant-arthur-harrington/#.W3TYesInZ9M

Please feel free to voice your opinion of our assessment!

First and fourth pictures are the Sergeant from the original query and known pictures of Arthur Harrington.

Second picture is cropped original plus cropped picture labeled "Officers of 3rd King’s Royal Rifle Corps: Battle of Spion Kop on 24th January 1900 during the Great Boer War"

Third picture is cropped original plus cropped picture labeled "Officers of 3rd King’s Royal Rifle Corps: Battle of Spion Kop on 24th January 1900 during the Great Boer War"









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Re: Uniform Identification
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 16 August 18 09:28 BST (UK) »
Certainly 8793 Acting Sergeant Major Arthur George Harrington (when killed in action April 1915)  - the NAM pic - served in the KRRC in the Boer War.   The cap badge in the Great War pic looks like the London Rifle Brigade (his regiment).

BTW  KRRC used the term serjeant (and their descendants still do today) although you will see the spelling with the G also.

I think you have it.

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I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



Double  Essex/Suffolk
Randle/Millington Warwicks
Sokser/Klingler Austria/Croatia