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Re: help in deciphering this painting on my sisters wall
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 15 August 18 21:42 BST (UK) »
How absolutely fascinating!!

Could the last 2 words on the top line read "the Archway" ?

I'd have to say there aren't enough characters there to spell Archway.
Some of it kinda looks Gaelic or Scots Gaelic, but I'm far from an expert.

I've separated the text from much of the background if that helps you folks further.
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Re: help in deciphering this painting on my sisters wall
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 16 August 18 15:28 BST (UK) »
Could the last word (second line) be Sion?

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Re: help in deciphering this painting on my sisters wall
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 16 August 18 15:48 BST (UK) »
The Listed Buildings site has this:

 'Sor I ssegn ande
mak my mon, the sschryn ys here the bodys goon'.

Wall painting in The Old Swan House, Harwich.

I looked down the list on the site and this one was the second I looked into. It must have wanted to be found!!

Not sure if the wording is the same. Looks very similar
Jay
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Re: help in deciphering this painting on my sisters wall
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 16 August 18 16:27 BST (UK) »
The Listed Buildings site has this:

 'Sor I ssegn ande
mak my mon, the sschryn ys here the bodys goon'.

Wall painting in The Old Swan House, Harwich.

I looked down the list on the site and this one was the second I looked into. It must have wanted to be found!!

Not sure if the wording is the same. Looks very similar
Jay

And reading a little further....
The plaster over has late C15 wall painting of a seated male figure with horn and taper and inscription:- 'Sor I ssegn ande mak my mon, the sschryn ys here the bodys goon'. To the left, a curious oval feature with black bands alternatively interpreted as gaming board or cannon.
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Re: help in deciphering this painting on my sisters wall
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 16 August 18 16:53 BST (UK) »
Good to know that's been resolved -- well found, frogspawn4. Saved us a whole lot more agonising.

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« Reply #23 on: Thursday 16 August 18 21:05 BST (UK) »
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Re: help in deciphering this painting on my sisters wall
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 16 August 18 21:51 BST (UK) »
Interesting thread!  I can't imagine that there would be any Welsh inscriptions in Harwich since it's the opposite side of the country to Wales.  You never know though.....  not impossible.
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« Reply #25 on: Thursday 16 August 18 22:00 BST (UK) »
So then, what does the inscription actually mean?  We seem to have the words but not the meaning.  I would suggest the latter part is '..... the shrine is here the body's gone'.  Anyone like to suggest an alternative and/or fill in the gaps?
Suffolk: Pearl(e),  Garnham, Southgate, Blo(o)mfield,Grimwood/Grimwade,Josselyn/Gosling
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Re: help in deciphering this painting on my sisters wall
« Reply #26 on: Friday 17 August 18 00:00 BST (UK) »
'Sor I ssegn ande
mak my mon, the sschryn ys here the bodys goon'.

So then, what does the inscription actually mean?  We seem to have the words but not the meaning.  I would suggest the latter part is '..... the shrine is here the body's gone'.  Anyone like to suggest an alternative and/or fill in the gaps?

Could the text be a reference to the Gospel story of Christ’s burial – the women visiting the tomb to anoint the body with oil, and their horror in finding the stone rolled aside and the tomb empty? Just a suggestion.