Mary Ann Buttimer born London

[margill68]

There are 3 marriages for Mary Ann
145/1875 STANLEY Alfred Edward-BUTTIMER Mary Ann  Sydney
6397/1884 MORRIS Henry-STANLEY Mary Ann  Newcastle
6502/1903 GLOVER John B - MORRIS Mary Ann.  I have this MC and her parents Robert Buttimer and Catherine Buttimer
I also found this article in the Singleton Argus 23 Aug 1884 p2
MORRIS-STANLEY
On Aug 19 at Christchurch Newcastle by Rec Arthur Selwyn MARY ANNIE widow of the late Alfred ? Stanley and eldest daughter of Robert Buttimer of Pyrmont Sydney to Henry Morris widower of Newcastle.
Mary Ann Glover died 1906/8731
I am struggling to find deaths for Alfred Stanley and Henry Morris and did Mary Ann have any children.  She was 51 when she married in 1903 so unlikely any Glover children
Any help appreciated

[rosball]

Hi Margill,
   It seems Henry MORRIS died 1901

NSW BDM death 1901
Henry MORRIS, father Henry, mother Frances, at Newcastle, reg 10342/1901

Funeral Notices
There are funeral notices in August 1901 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article136082624

There is an endorsement by Mary Annie MORRIS of an insurance company for paying the life insurance of her recently deceased husband Henry MORRIS so quickly (Aug 23 1901)
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article136090563   (1st column)

Ros

[rosball]

There was trouble in the marriage of Alfred E STANLEY and his wife Mary Ann.  He was charged with deserting her in 1876.

Here they determine maintenance amount for her - no mention of children http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article136856804

Here it mentions that Alfred STANLEY is working on the barque Lucknow, a trader between Newcastle and Adelaide  http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article110991095

Ros

adding : theatning language used by Alfred STANLEY to his wife Mary Ann STANLEY http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article110991603

There is a possible death in 1876
1876 Alfred STANLEY,  father Alfred, mother Sarah, at Redfern reg 3697/1876
(10 oct 1876)

[majm]

Hi there,

The 1884 marriage ceremony was at Christ Church Cathedral, Hexham (Newcastle, NSW) and image is available via a live link at RChat’s NSW Resources board http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=369703.0 

It is towards the end of the set for the period covering 1869=1885
Baptisms, Marriages, Burials, Christ Church Cathedral, Newcastle
http://www.flickr.com/photos/uon/sets/72157606066769147/ 1820 – 1899 Family Register
http://www.flickr.com/photos/uon/sets/72157605008173551/ 1826 – 1837 Baptisms, Marriages,

.....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/uon/sets/72157605674610949/ 1856 – 1868 Marriages Register
http://www.flickr.com/photos/uon/sets/72157605785759029/ 1869 – 1885 Marriages Register


19th August 1884  ... her signature is clearly on the image 
JM

[Westward]

There was trouble in the marriage of Alfred E STANLEY and his wife Mary Ann.  He was charged with deserting her in 1876.

Here they determine maintenance amount for her - no mention of children http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article136856804

Here it mentions that Alfred STANLEY is working on the barque Lucknow, a trader between Newcastle and Adelaide  http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article110991095

Ros

adding : theatning language used by Alfred STANLEY to his wife Mary Ann STANLEY http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article110991603

There is a possible death in 1876
1876 Alfred STANLEY,  father Alfred, mother Sarah, at Redfern reg 3697/1876
(10 oct 1876)

The date of the threatening language appears to be 1 day after the court ordered Alfred to pay his wife £2 per month - probably not a coincidence   

The next marriage would record Mary Ann a widow regardless as to whether he had died or not. Divorce was rare and expensive. The Mary/Ann Alfred marriage would hopefully provide the names of Alfred's parents, to determine if you found the correct death.

[majm]

....

The date of the threatening language appears to be 1 day after the court ordered Alfred to pay his wife £2 per month - probably not a coincidence   

The next marriage would record Mary Ann a widow regardless as to whether he had died or not. Divorce was rare and expensive. The Mary/Ann Alfred marriage would hopefully provide the names of Alfred's parents, to determine if ... the correct death.

Re:
 
widow on next marriage ... 'divorcee - petitioner' was also an option ... the C of E clergy were using that on NSW marriage registrations from around 1874 ...

  rare and expensive ... Yes, well, err ... rare ... Divorce did not come to NSW until 1873, and expensive ... well ... ummmm .... as was usual, the NSW Supreme Court judges awarded costs to the party who did not 'win' the case.     

You may find the following papers informative, 
  http://pandora.nla.gov.au/pan/34360/20050715-0000/www.aifs.gov.au/institute/seminars/finlay.html
  http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/SydLawRw/1963/5.pdf

From my 19th century NSW family papers, I have a file, about 4 inches thick, from NSW Archives for a divorce.  Divorce found for the female, and all costs (add, both parties) against the male, no co-respondent named.  From the court documents ... re Costs ... these were fully detailed and were approximately £45 for the female's legal team.    Occupation for the male :  labourer. 

JM

[margill68]

I lost my connection for a while.  The Buttimer family arrived on the 'Lobelia' in 1863.
I  found her funeral notice.  There are no family or relatives mentioned just friends.  Rookwood General Cemetery records have her buried 5 Aug 1906.   
Thank you for the Flickr marriage records I did find the Morris-Stanley marriage. 

[majm]

Yes, those Flickr images are a fantastic resource.    

   JM

[sparrett]

This is the death of the first wife of Henry MORRIS
 
MORRIS Mary J
7833/1878
Parents not known
AGE 40 Years
DIED at  Newcastle

Here is the record of her burial.

There is a note on the record-"Subcategory Parish Burials"
Someone may know if this means it was a burial at the expense of the parish

Newcastle West Roman Catholic Cemetery
Mary Jane MORRIS
Aged   40 years
Birth year   1838
Birth place   - Not Known
Died 19-Jan-878
Spouse's name   Henry Morris
Father   --- O’brady
Mother   (Unknown)

Using Trove to search "Mary Jane(t) MORRIS" brings up a number of incidents of her bad behaviour incurring fines and costs.  I suspect some addiction or mental disorder.

The daughters of this couple, Fanny (married John BRIDGES) and Ellen (married James KEITH) had some unpleasant altercations too. Fanny died in 1892.

So Henry MORRIS, died and was buried at Sandgate Cemetery. https://northerncemeteries.com.au/sandgate/deceased-search/ Some of his children are located there too.

I am sceptical of the information on the marriage certificate for the STANLEY/MORRIS union regarding his place of birth being Germany.

I have not located a marriage for MORRIS and O'BRADY.

Sue