It has on Mary's birth certificate Under Father Name and surname rank or profession of the father Age and Birth Place. James Cope , Butcher,47, Westminister , London, England, Mother Hannah Cope ,Hannah Murphy, married July 1862, Grange, Hamilton.
Hope this helps !
Regards Annette ellen
Hi jomcd967,
I have a death certificate for a James Cope and it has he is buried 28th June 1888, Bairnisdale, Rev CJ Chambers (I Think) Church of England Minister .
It has deceased was married where Warrnambool, and what age 49yrs and to whom Hannah Murphy .
Issue James 24 , Mary Jane 22.
A puzzling lot indeed.
Hope this helps you.
Hello
Warrnambool, Victoria is right on the coast.
Grange Hamilton, Victoria, apparently is definitely not on the coast and inland.
You cannot start looking in another country, until you have reconciled or have an explanation or full understanding for the two different Marriage places and why?
Is there another separate Marriage document somewhere, or a 2nd entry (of the same marriage, like a Marriage Oath or Bond) and if my family, I would want to see if the other Marriage (both Marriages) exists and what they both say?
Just because a 19th Century and earlier Burial here in England, Great Britain, might be in Church of England records, it did not mean that the person's religion was always Church of England.
Some burials in England C of E Churchyards were Nonconformist, because many Nonconformist Cemeteries were few and may be some distance away.
In family history you can't assume anything regarding a Birth or Burial, as some Births were unrecorded. In fact there was no Legal requirement to register a Birth in England, Great Britain, until into the 1870s.
You can't rely on finding every event on pay per view online sites or Family Search (only a year ago Family Search LDS were asking for Volunteers who wished to help them input more records), some Births require a thorough search first for the different Religions and Chapels in the area, then which Archive holds the Registers (if they survived) and then sometimes a manual search of those Registers (if images are not online).
Some people changed their religion like the Great British weather!
Regarding the two Marriage places in the State / Area of Victoria you mentioned, a website says this about the two places ...
http://www.wendishheritage.org.au/articles/the-german-speaking-settlers-of-the-hamilton-district/The early settlers in Victoria’s Western District were mainly Prussian and Saxon farmers, who arrived at Warrnambool in 1849 and Portland in 1852. Their religion being predominantly Lutheran, they soon established congregations at South Hamilton (now the Cemetery), Hochkirch/Tarrington, Gnadenthal, St Luke’s South Hamilton, Tabor, Neukirch/Byaduk and Warrayure, with occasional services at Warrnambool.Mark
