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Will of 1659
« on: Thursday 16 August 18 22:07 BST (UK) »
Hello Rootschatters

I am working on a Will dated 1569 and have most of the 56 lines completed but still have gaps to fill in. It is a fascinating document with loads of information. I have worked out the testator is bequeathing a jewell wherein is kept a Calle (caul).

I am having a problem with the words between Calle and upon. I think the first may be 'which'.

Can anyone help?
Many thanks.
Venelow


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Re: Will of 1659
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 16 August 18 22:45 BST (UK) »
I think the word after Calle is 'with'.
Not sure of the next one yet!

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Re: Will of 1659
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 16 August 18 22:49 BST (UK) »
Very unsure of this, but am wondering if it might be 'with roses upon'..... Quite happy for someone else to come along and correct but am thinking that it could well be the long 's' in the middle which didn't actually make the downward stroke.
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Re: Will of 1659
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 16 August 18 23:48 BST (UK) »
I read it as ... w(hi)ch roles upon ...

It’s impossible to know if that would make sense in context because the extract is too short.


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Re: Will of 1659
« Reply #4 on: Friday 17 August 18 01:17 BST (UK) »
This Will is on Ancestry in the Wiltshire, England, Wills and Probate, 1530-1858 for Stephen Bowman. The extract is from the 4th page second line from the top.

I had no idea they put cauls in jewelry - I guess a sort of locket. Roses sounds right. The rest of the sentence is easy to read. The recipient of this jewel was about seventeen years old!

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Re: Will of 1659
« Reply #5 on: Friday 17 August 18 03:47 BST (UK) »
This Will has confirmed that Stephen's son Seymour Bowman and his wife Dorothy were married by February 1st 1658/9. It also confirms that at the time the Will was signed (1 Feb 1658/9) she had no children nor was known to be pregnant.

I don't have a date of their marriage due to lack of records in the Protectorate era. Dorothy Windover was born in 1641 but the earliest child I have found baptized for Seymour Bowman is in 1665. Seymour Bowman was MP for Sarum in 1660.

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Re: Will of 1659
« Reply #6 on: Friday 17 August 18 05:27 BST (UK) »
Examination of the context has shown that the passage is as follows.

Without the context I doubt anyone could have reached the right reading.


...and a Jewell of gould wherin is kept a Calle w(hi)ch was upon

the face of her husbandes mother my Late deceased wife when she was borne...



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Re: Will of 1659
« Reply #7 on: Friday 17 August 18 07:54 BST (UK) »
Thanks for putting up the clips to put it into context HD.
How fascinating!

It's aways much more helpful to post more than just the one word venelow, as Bookbox and HD have said.
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Re: Will of 1659
« Reply #8 on: Friday 17 August 18 07:59 BST (UK) »
Cauls were kept in fishing communities in Scotland as it was believed they would prevent the wearer from drowning.

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