Peter/Patrick McBride

[methodmoran]

Would appreciate opinions and thoughts on my great great grandfather.

He died in 1891 in South Shields and was known as Peter McBride, which was also his name on the 1891 census (living in Hebburn) which says his place of birth was just Scotland.

However, he married my great great Grandmother (Mary keenan) at St Bedes, Jarrow in 1883 under the name of Patrick McBride and I cant find any record of a Peter McBride matching the known details prior to this. My first thoughts were that he might have tried to sound less Irish by changing Patrick to Peter but with the name of McBride and living in Hebburn (from what my grandparents told me of it being an Irish area) that doesnt seem to make much sense.

The 1881 census does have a Patrick McBride as a prison inmate in Newcastle that matches the information I have. My latest theory is that his change of name might be due to starting out again after leaving prison but I am not sure.

Would appreciate more experienced opinions on this.

[CaroleW]

Patrick and Peter are interchangeable names.  I have seen census entries for the same person under both names - although almost always born in Ireland

He appears to have been born 1845/46 so have you looked for him on the 1851 Scottish census?

The 1881 census does have a Patrick McBride as a prison inmate in Newcastle that matches the information I have.

Having problems finding that entry - can you give details please


What was his fathers name on his 1883 marriage cert

[CaroleW]

There is an 1871 entry for a Patrick McBride b 1845 Ireland - living in North Shields as a boarder

1861 entry b Scotland 1847  living in All Saints Northumberland - parents Joseph & Catherine.  Joseph was a masons labourer

[CaroleW]

No wonder I couldn't find him in 1881 - he is shown as born 1854 whereas the Peter McBride who died in 1891 was aged 45

His age on the the original image has a large splodge over most of it so no blame on the transcriber

In 1891 he is shown as born 1851

[methodmoran]

Hi Carole,

His father's name on the marriage certificate is Dennis. As for the death, he disappears between the 1891 and 1901 census and the death I found is the only one that matches the dates and names.

[CaroleW]

1851 for Port Glasgow Renfrewshire - all children born there.  Parents b Ireland

Dennis Mcbride    35 common labourer
Margaret  36
Mary  13
Anne  11
Patrick  8
Paisley Middle Church ED 3 Page 5 Line 14

[methodmoran]

Hi saw this but wasnt sure because it said Patrick was 8 years old.

[CaroleW]

1891 census he was 40.  If you have the right death then he aged 5yrs in less than a year??