What became of Mortimer Brownrigg SOMMERS after 1849

[Westy11]

Anc* have a record for the embarkation from Liverpool of Mortimer Brownrigg SOMMERS a 28 year old Irish male workman who arrived in New York, New York, USA 27 Aug 1849 on board the John R. Skiddy. [New York, Irish Immigrant Arrival Records, 1846-1851]

i have been unable to locate him going through Ellis Island.  I don't have access to the original records of his arrival in New York and only have a transcription. The original record may hold more details such as his birthplace in Ireland and his parents. 

Perhaps he can be located in the Census records and unfortunately I don't have access to them. 

i don't have any more detail on Mortimer.  Mortimer has the same unusual name as a person I am seeking specifically Brownrigg SOMERS/SOMERS.  Brownrigg SOMERS/SOMERS son Robert Fraser SOMERS migrated to Australia.  Brownrigg SOMERS/SOMERS wif was Eliza FRASER.

It may be that Brownrigg is a family name and nonetheless its unusual and an unusual combination so am hoping to locate details relating to the young Mortimer who travels to the USA.

Westy

[amondg]

The passenger list for the John R Skiddy his name has been transcribed as Sorrows,
simply gives his name and age of 28 born Ireland, Laborer, destination New York, and he has 1 trunk.

Not as detailed as others I've seen with names of relatives and addresses as final ddestination 
 

[Westy11]

Thanks so very much.

Westy

[Westy11]

Perhaps the census record/s may give more information on Mortimer's aged, birthdate and location??

Westy

[AMBLY]

Unfortunately, at the time Mortimer Brownrigg Som(m)ers travelled - the shipping manifests wouldn't show more that what you have - the type of detailed manifests showing home address, destination address, relatives/friend from whence came, relatives/friend going to, precise birthplaces, etc., came decades later.

I've had a look for him US Census 1850+ - no sign, and I searched under a variety of ways (Mort*) (Mor*), (Som*), (Brownr*) &  so on.

I also looked to see if there was an Eliza Som*ers arriving in NY  after him (often when immigrating a man made his way over first, wife children later).

I see from other topics/posts on web that : your Robert Frazer SOMMERS, Draper of Aston's Quay Dublin in 1880 when he married Phebe Letitia JACKSON in Roscrea, Tipperary - gave his father as "Mortimer B SOMMERS, Hotel Keeper".

And when Robert died in 1913 in Australia his youngest son informed Roberts parents as:
Brownrigg Sommers and Eliza Jackson - as you say, likely a bit misinformed or failed/partial memory at play there.

Will keep looking - sorry not to be more help!

Cheers
AMBLY

[AMBLY]

From a name point of view, this is interesting……

Came across Catholic Baptism records of children born within the Dublin Dioscese to parents named:
Mortimer SOMERS and Eliza PRESTAGE
1851: Murthous, (parents Murthoo Somers & Eliz'th Prestage), Ballynabanogne
1860: Sarah, Clomaany
1862: Elleonora Johanna, Clomurray,
1865: Margarita, Clomurray
1867: Eliza, Clonmary
1873: Winifreda, Askinch
1870: Maria, Johnstown

Googled Eliza Prestage Somers and got a couple of snippets:
"….forbidden 1856 marriage of Eliza PRESTAGE, Catholic (her mother a Hollingworth) to Murtha SOMERS Jnr which caused family a family rift….."

So…from this, I understand you might well find the name "Mortimer"  as alternatives " Murtha", or "Murtagh" ?

Cheers
AMBLY

[Westy11]

That is a great find AMBLY.  You have been a great help and it is very much appreciated.

The family were definitely anti-Catholic and just perhaps that's why they were anti-Catholic?

Can you please paste the web addresses for your finds as I don't seem to be able to replicate the results.

Which country?

Westy



   

[AMBLY]

Hi Westy,

The baptisms etc, from A%y.

This is the Google Books snippet:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mju/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mjt/

I have a feeling this is might be the same Mortimer in 1901 Census Ireland - but is so, daughter's ages a bit out of kilter. In Coombe, Wood Quay, Dublin
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003790242/

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/
Winifred SOMERS married Augustine KELLY in 1897, and said her father was Murtagh SOMERS, Dairyman.

Murtagh SOMERS Jnr married Elizabeth DWYER* in 1888, and his address was 92 **Coombe (mistranscribed as *Dwyan and **Cromlee). Parents Murtagh Somers & Eliza Prestige.

A%y: There are a number of Trade Directories for Ireland around that time, which include a Murtagh SOMERS of 96 Coombe, one of many Registered Dairies.

Cheers
AMBLY

[Westy11]

Once again thanks so much AMBLY.

Its most curious. Based on those snippets it seems that M SOMERS was Catholic and that Eliza converted to Catholicism.

The SOMERS family from whom this research sprang are definitely Church of England although they were possibly Church of Ireland and I shall enquire.

A PM on its way.

Much appreciated.

Westy