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Offline joliz

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samuel bartram
« on: Saturday 18 August 18 16:27 BST (UK) »
Hi im looking for any info on samuel bartram b abt 1842 depwade norfolk he married lucy neve 1861 in norwich norfolk , i have found them on 1861 census and 1871 census but can not find them after that , any help would be great

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Re: samuel bartram
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 August 18 16:39 BST (UK) »
Could you please give details of the family in 1871
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Re: samuel bartram
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 18 August 18 16:41 BST (UK) »
1871 he's in heigham, born "Sacthorpe, Norfolk"

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1851 b Saxthorpe, not Depwade
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Re: samuel bartram
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 18 August 18 16:51 BST (UK) »
looking at the census if I am correct
Samuel was born 1842
and
Lucy 1826

if this is so then I have found a death
1878 Norwich
Lucy Bartram
aged 52
making her birth date  circa 1836 which is possibly near enough

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Re: samuel bartram
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 18 August 18 16:52 BST (UK) »
Have you considered:

Death Mar qtr 1922 Depwade vol 4b p354 BARTRAM Samuel age 77


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Re: samuel bartram
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 18 August 18 16:56 BST (UK) »
Probate for Lucy Bartram :

Death date 10 Nov 1878 at Willow Lane , Norwich, probate granted at Norwich to husband Samuel Bartram , tailor of 9 Lumsden Street, Old Dumbarton Road, Glasgow.

That doesn't make sense ! Samuel and Lucy Bartram are on the 1881 and 1891 census at Old Dumbarton Road , Glasgow  ???
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Re: samuel bartram
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 18 August 18 17:11 BST (UK) »
The Lucy Bartram with Samuel in Glasgow as his wife is born 1852. They have a daughter Florence born in Glasgow in 1878 . familysearch doesn't offer the full transcript so I haven't linked to it.

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Re: samuel bartram
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 18 August 18 17:17 BST (UK) »
I don't subscribe to ScotlandsPeople but there is a marriage for a Samuel Bartram and Lucy Woodhouse in 1878 in Anderston and one death for a Samuel Bartram in 1899 in Cambuslang.
Pullinger Hillier Moxham Butterfield Button Browne Wallis Floyd Blyvers Cordery Cuttress Greve Fagg Belsey Lancaster Markwick

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Re: samuel bartram
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 18 August 18 17:18 BST (UK) »
They appear to have 3 daughters  on 1891 and yes, Lucy's age is quite a bit different from Lucy on 1861 and 1871



Also I think I found a death 1913 for a Samuel aged 73,  buried Caistor cemetery , died in Yarmouth infirmary,  occupation gardener

The plot deepens

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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
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