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Elizabeth (Martha) Terr(e)y/Williams/Bond parentage?
« on: Sunday 19 August 18 15:10 BST (UK) »
The Ancestry London collection has a record of the marriage of
Elizabeth Martha Williams - father John Terrey  to William George Bond on 8 July 1866 at St. Mary, Lambeth.

The banns for this marriage published 1/8/15 April 1866 show her originally recorded as Lizzy Martha Williams widow but Lizzy has been crossed through and changed to Eliz.

The marriage witnesses are JE Gawler? and Edw Powell and the record states that John, her carpenter father is deceased.

She and William Bond do not appear to have any children.

Although I have searched and have found her in the 1871/81/91 censuses with William George Bond I cannot find her prior to her second marriage in 1866 or her birth.  Census info suggests birth around 1843 and consistently states Westminster as place. 

She dies Jun 1891.

Can anybody please find this elusive lady and/or her family prior to 1861 please.

I do not need any info on William George Bond thanks.

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Re: Elizabeth (Martha) Terr(e)y/Williams/Bond parentage?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 19 August 18 15:30 BST (UK) »
Possible?

John H Terry   Head   Male   45 Jouneyman Carpenter*** born Greenwich, Kent
Phoebe Terry   Wife   Female   44   Bath,
John H D Terry   Son   Male   15   Greenwich, Kent
George Terry   Son   Male   11   Greenwich, Kent
Ann H Terry   Daughter   Female   13   Greenwich, Kent
Emma Terry   Daughter   Female   9   Greenwich, Kent
Elizabeth Terry   Daughter   Female   7   Greenwich, Kent********
Mary Ann Terry   Daughter   Female   4   Greenwich, Kent
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Elizabeth (Martha) Terr(e)y/Williams/Bond parentage?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 August 18 15:36 BST (UK) »
Sorry not her the one above was Elizabeth Phoebe Terry ::)
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Elizabeth (Martha) Terr(e)y/Williams/Bond parentage?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 August 18 15:37 BST (UK) »
Thanks Trish - presumably this is the 1851 and details do seem correct - don't know why I hadn't spotted it myself, except I think I was focussed on a Westminster birth as that is what was on the only 3 censuses I had to date.

Will follow through.  Pheno

ADDED:No I won't now that you have posted again.
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Re: Elizabeth (Martha) Terr(e)y/Williams/Bond parentage?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 August 18 15:40 BST (UK) »
Both witnesses appear on several other marriages in that register  ;)

Marriages Sep qtr 1858    :-\
Keigan    Eliza        
Terry    Eliza       
Thorogood    William       
Williams    George James       
Kensington    1a   165   
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Re: Elizabeth (Martha) Terr(e)y/Williams/Bond parentage?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 August 18 15:44 BST (UK) »
Both witnesses appear on several other marriages in that register  ;)

Marriages Sep qtr 1858    :-\
Keigan    Eliza        
Terry    Eliza       
Thorogood    William       
Williams    George James       
Kensington    1a   165

That marriage names her father as Charles Terry occ Carpenter
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Re: Elizabeth (Martha) Terr(e)y/Williams/Bond parentage?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 August 18 15:46 BST (UK) »
Both witnesses appear on several other marriages in that register  ;)

Marriages Sep qtr 1858    :-\
Keigan    Eliza        
Terry    Eliza       
Thorogood    William       
Williams    George James       
Kensington    1a   165

That marriage names her father as Charles Terry occ Carpenter

Yes, and this couple are still together in 1871: RG10/182/13/18.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Elizabeth (Martha) Terr(e)y/Williams/Bond parentage?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 August 18 16:05 BST (UK) »
Hi all, I am really sorry and truly thought this was my first post on the subject but as you can see from the links below it is not!

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=679489.0

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=740407.0

I checked everything else I could before posting but overlooked this.

Many apologies as I do know better.

Thanks for looking.

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Re: Elizabeth (Martha) Terr(e)y/Williams/Bond parentage?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 August 18 16:09 BST (UK) »
It was a busy day at St Mary, Lambeth on 8 July 1866. Elizabeth Martha Williams’ and William Bond’s marriage was the 10th one of the day (out of 16, all witnessed by the same two people).

Also on the agenda that day were several banns including those for an Elizabeth Terrey and William Gofton Seller.

I wonder whether there is a possibility that the vicar got some notes muddled up, and “John Terrey” was not the correct name for Elizabeth Martha Williams’ father. Elizabeth made her mark on the marriage register, and the witnesses appear to be unrelated, so an error might have gone unnoticed.

Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)