Author Topic: James GEDDIS/Elizabeth TAYLOR. (Larne/Belfast).  (Read 1516 times)

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James GEDDIS/Elizabeth TAYLOR. (Larne/Belfast).
« on: Monday 20 August 18 00:50 BST (UK) »
     Hi, would be grateful for help tracing parents/ancestors of James Geddis & Elizabeth Taylor.
 James b. Lurgan, N. Ireland (Presbyterian Church Minister) d. possibly 18 July 1954 Royal Victoria
 Hospital, Belfast.  Elizabeth b. abt 1893 Lurgan, d. abt 1978 Belfast.                                         
      Their 3 children:  "Mina Geddis" b. 1920 Belfast, d. 1999 Bangor.(married Eric Ribton Sandys, b. 1919 Dublin, d. 2005 Bangor).   "Lilian Geddis" b. 1922 Belfast, d. 2002 Wimbleton, London, England.(married Kenneth Mayne b. 1920 England, d. abt 1982 London).   "James Alexander Geddis" b. abt 1924 Belfast, d. abt 1991 Belfast.(married Emily Maud Webb, b. abt 1937 Belfast, d. abt 2007 Ulster Hospital, Belfast)
      many thanks for your help, carole                 

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Re: JAMES GEDDIS/ELIZABETH TAYLOR. (LARNE/BELFAST).
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 August 18 03:28 BST (UK) »

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Re: JAMES GEDDIS/ELIZABETH TAYLOR. (LARNE/BELFAST).
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 August 18 03:32 BST (UK) »
Is this James' grave?
https://dof.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialSearch.aspx?GraveSection=N1&GraveNumber=46&CemeteryName=City%20Cemetery%20-%20Glenalina%20Extension

James in the PRONI Will Calendars index?
Geddis James of 212 Donegall Road Belfast insurance agent died 18 July 1954 at the Royal Victoria Hospital Belfast Probate Belfast 12 October to Elizabeth Geddis the widow. Effects £1637 13s. 3d.

Looks like a candidate for James in 1901:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Lurgan_Urban/High_Street/1025489/

Birth of the above (1901) James in 1893:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1893/02319/1868897.pdf

Parent's marriage in 1891:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1891/10674/5890037.pdf


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Re: James GEDDIS/Elizabeth TAYLOR. (Larne/Belfast).
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 August 18 08:40 BST (UK) »
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James b. Lurgan, N. Ireland (Presbyterian Church Minister) d. possibly 18 July 1954 Royal Victoria

There is no minister of a Presbyterian congregation in Ireland named James Geddis. However, gaffy posted Will extract for a James Geddis, insurance agent.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: JAMES GEDDIS/ELIZABETH TAYLOR. (LARNE/BELFAST).
« Reply #5 on: Monday 20 August 18 09:25 BST (UK) »
Belfast street directories for 1932, 1939, 1943 and 1951 show James Geddis as the occupier of 212 Donegall Road,his occupation given as insurance agent in the last three years, in 1932 it was given as clerk.

http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/index.htm

For the birth of daughter Mona (Mina?) on 21 September 1920 at Charles Street Lurgan, James' occupation was recorded as clerk.


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Re: JAMES GEDDIS/ELIZABETH TAYLOR. (LARNE/BELFAST).
« Reply #6 on: Monday 20 August 18 09:42 BST (UK) »

... Is this James' grave?
https://dof.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialSearch.aspx?GraveSection=N1&GraveNumber=46&CemeteryName=City%20Cemetery%20-%20Glenalina%20Extension


Below is clearly the family that relates to the other grave occupant David Gracey Warnock (and perhaps Minnie A Taylor as well?), in the following census return, 54 year old Jane Warnock was nee Gracey, widow of John Warnock (they married in Lurgan in 1885), 45 year old Maggie Taylor (Willie, Minnie and Sarah were her children) was nee Higginson, widow of John Taylor (they married in Belfast in 1892), but not yet sure how they all relate:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/St__Anne_s_Ward/Roden_Street/183073/

The name David Gracey Warnock was cited in full at birth registration:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1899/02054/1785984.pdf

Warnock-Gracey and Taylor-Higginson marriages:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1885/10882/5974316.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1892/10648/5879392.pdf


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Re: JAMES GEDDIS/ELIZABETH TAYLOR. (LARNE/BELFAST).
« Reply #7 on: Monday 20 August 18 10:16 BST (UK) »
From the 1970 street directory for Bangor County Down:

Moira Park
off East side Moira Drive to Broadway
left-hand side
...
25. Eric R. Sandys


http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/BangorSpectatorDirectory1970.htm

There's also a brief 1933 newspaper reference indicating that an Eric Sandys was in the scouts.


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Re: JAMES GEDDIS/ELIZABETH TAYLOR. (LARNE/BELFAST).
« Reply #8 on: Monday 20 August 18 10:51 BST (UK) »
Turning to the Taylor side, when Elizabeth Taylor from Lurgan married James Geddis in 1919 (at reply #1), her father was given as Alexander Taylor, a weaver. A number of possible candidates present themselves for Elizabeth, however, given that a witness to the marriage was a Hannah Taylor (not a common name combination in Co. Armagh in the 1901 / 1911 censuses) and given that the address for the birth of James Geddis and Elizabeth Taylor's daughter Mona (Mina?) in 1920 was Charles Street Lurgan, a reasonable guess is that it was this family:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Lurgan_Urban/Charles_Street/1024945/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Lurgan_Urban/Charles_Street/335922/

The Lillie / Lily shown in the 1901 and 1911 census returns was named Elizabeth at birth in 1895:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1895/02221/1837869.pdf
Her parents Alexander Taylor and Elizabeth Baxter were married in Lurgan in 1878:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1878/11100/8062570.pdf

Looks like Elizabeth (Baxter) Taylor died in 1915:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1915/05284/4468225.pdf

And there is the following administration case in the PRONI Will Calendars index (the GRONI website  shows a reported age at death of 69):
Taylor Alexander of 7 Charles Street Lurgan county Armagh weaver died 28 May 1930 Administration Belfast 26 June to Emma Taylor the widow. Effects £151 6s. 9d.

From the Northern Whig and Belfast Post of 30 May 1930: TAYLOR-May 28, 1930, at his residence, 7, Charles Street, Lurgan, Alexander, dearly loved husband of Emma Taylor. Funeral to-day (Friday), at 2 o'clock, to Lurgan New Cemetery. And (in the same newspaper and date): Sudden Death in Lurgan. Alexander Taylor (73), a weaver, was found dead in his house at Charles Street, Lurgan.  An inquest was not considered necessary.

(The GRONI website has a marriage registered in Craigavon district for an Alexander Taylor and Emma Fleming, it took place on 1 January 1930, it might be the Alexander Taylor referred to in the PRONI entry and newspaper reference above?)