Author Topic: George Ronald Kirk 1913-1949 and Wilhelmina Christine Kirk 1920  (Read 2642 times)

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Re: George Ronald Kirk 1913-1949 and Wilhelmina Christine Kirk 1920
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 22 August 18 13:07 BST (UK) »
I agree the marriage cert. is the only way forward.

Looking at any births prior to the marriage isn't going to help as he may have been illegitimate & possibly even born Ronald George i.e. swapping names round (which has been known).

The possible I posted was for a later date i.e. after the marriage which was in Ayr too although he may have been born anywhere depending on his father's job etc?

Having checked SP, I think he may have been illegitimate although I may be wrong?

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Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

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Re: George Ronald Kirk 1913-1949 and Wilhelmina Christine Kirk 1920
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 22 August 18 22:21 BST (UK) »
I brought some credits from the site :)

Yes defiantly george ronald kirk on his death certificate but on his sons marriage certificate he goes by first name ronald states his occupation painter and decorator and that hes deceased the marriage record was from 1965 so that makes sense he died in 1949 :) 

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Re: George Ronald Kirk 1913-1949 and Wilhelmina Christine Kirk 1920
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 22 August 18 22:33 BST (UK) »
Hi

You haven't answered the vital question - who were his parents on the 1939 marriage cert?
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Re: George Ronald Kirk 1913-1949 and Wilhelmina Christine Kirk 1920
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 22 August 18 22:38 BST (UK) »
Ive only just seen the ayr record have been trying to find it :) and now ive just used the credits his parents are john and mary kirk :D Thank you guys so much for your help and directing me to this site. Greatly appreicated :)


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Re: George Ronald Kirk 1913-1949 and Wilhelmina Christine Kirk 1920
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 22 August 18 22:42 BST (UK) »
What was his mothers maiden name? 

How old is George on the marriage cert?

What was the full marriage date?
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Re: George Ronald Kirk 1913-1949 and Wilhelmina Christine Kirk 1920
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 22 August 18 22:57 BST (UK) »
Marriage date - 24th October 1939. Its hard to read it either he is 25 or 35. 

His mothers maiden name is Williams. Both his parents deceased

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Re: George Ronald Kirk 1913-1949 and Wilhelmina Christine Kirk 1920
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 22 August 18 23:03 BST (UK) »
As he was 35 when he died in 1949 he was probably 25 when he married

The only John Kirk & Mary Williams marriage in England was 1890 in Liverpool
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Re: George Ronald Kirk 1913-1949 and Wilhelmina Christine Kirk 1920
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 22 August 18 23:10 BST (UK) »
A possible but after the birth of George, maybe a step-father?

KIRK JOHN WHITE & WILLIAMSON MARY JOHNSTON 1926
597/ 150 Kilmarnock (Ayr)

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: George Ronald Kirk 1913-1949 and Wilhelmina Christine Kirk 1920
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 22 August 18 23:18 BST (UK) »
Another possible & a better fit for timing?

KIRK JOHN  & WILLIAMSON MARY 1899
621/ 39 Avondale (Lanark)

Maybe a check of 1901 then 1911 for occ.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"