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Paul Espinasse and the Guinness Brewery
« on: Thursday 23 August 18 15:17 BST (UK) »
I'm puzzled by the official history of the Guinness Brewery and Paul Espinasse's role. It's said that Paul died after falling off his horse outside The Bull in Drogheda in 1750, but Paul would have been far too old to be riding a horse if he had arrived in Ireland in 1689 as some sources say.

The famous 1759 Guinness lease refers to property formerly held by Paul Espinasse and John Espinasse. They would appear to be father and son if the Betham extract at https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99LW-XSH8?i=297&cat=224404 is the right one. This will for a Paul Espinasse, brewer, was made in 1739 and proved in 1740 and names a son John. Co-incidently there is a John Espinasse who dies in 1750 - https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/de0ffa0317187. He is buried on 10th July, eight days later Margaret Espinasse is appointed administrator of the estate of John Espinasse, brewer. Seven years later Patrick Doyle becomes administrator as executor of Margaret - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99LW-2FQP?i=79&cat=224404.

Is there a contemporary source for the Drogheda story? Or was it John who fell off the horse there?

There is a PS to this story, the will of 1739 refers to Paul's granddaughter Anne, who through her father Charles Ward was first cousin to the Mark Ransford who granted the 1759 lease.

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Re: Paul Espinasse and the Guinness Brewery
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 23 August 18 15:23 BST (UK) »
I'm puzzled by the official history of the Guinness Brewery and Paul Espinasse's role. It's said that Paul died after falling off his horse outside The Bull in Drogheda in 1750, but Paul would have been far too old to be riding a horse if he had arrived in Ireland in 1689 as some sources say.

The famous 1759 Guinness lease refers to property formerly held by Paul Espinasse and John Espinasse. They would appear to be father and son if the Betham extract at https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99LW-XSH8?i=297&cat=224404 is the right one. This will for a Paul Espinasse, brewer, was made in 1739 and proved in 1740 and names a son John. Co-incidently there is a John Espinasse who dies in 1750 - https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/de0ffa0317187. He is buried on 10th July, eight days later Margaret Espinasse is appointed administrator of the estate of John Espinasse, brewer. Seven years later Patrick Doyle becomes administrator as executor of Margaret - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99LW-2FQP?i=79&cat=224404.

Is there a contemporary source for the Drogheda story? Or was it John who fell off the horse there?

There is a PS to this story, the will of 1739 refers to Paul's granddaughter Anne, who through her father Charles Ward was first cousin to the Mark Ransford who granted the 1759 lease.


Depends on how old he was when he arrived in Ireland in 1689...  61 years earlier!! 
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« Reply #2 on: Thursday 23 August 18 15:52 BST (UK) »
Jean Paul Espinasse, who ran a brewery in Dublin, fell from his horse during a trip to Drogheda and died. The brewery was bought by a man called Arthur Guinness!

https://www.independent.ie/regionals/droghedaindependent/localnotes/book-about-towns-past-a-labour-of-love-for-ted-27161361.html
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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 23 August 18 15:54 BST (UK) »
That book is the only one that calls him "Jean Paul" and that's not the name on the lease!!


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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 23 August 18 15:55 BST (UK) »
R. Espinasse, Esq. This last seat was the country residence of the deans of Christ-Church, Dublin, and is part of the estate of Kill of the Grange of Clonkeen, but has been held by lease for above 120 years by the Espinasse family.

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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 23 August 18 15:58 BST (UK) »
He's a descendant of William Espinasse. The 1739 will calls him a "relation".

Kill Abbey was the subject of a long court case in the 1750s and 1760s.

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That book is the only one that calls him "Jean Paul" and that's not the name on the lease!!


No it's not


"I Never Knew That About the Irish"  By Christopher Winn  gives same names.
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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 23 August 18 16:06 BST (UK) »
Do any of them quote sources?

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 23 August 18 16:08 BST (UK) »
What names are in

 Journal Article
Some Residents of Monkstown in the Eighteenth Century
Francis Elrington Ball
The Journal of the Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland
Fifth Series, Vol. 9, No. 3 (Sep. 30, 1899), pp. 233-243
Published by: Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland

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