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Re: Paul Espinasse and the Guinness Brewery
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 23 August 18 16:10 BST (UK) »
I can't comment on his age when he had accident but it depends on how old he was when he arrived in Ireland in 1689...  61 years earlier!!
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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 23 August 18 16:12 BST (UK) »
Who did they originally get the Land from?  Year?
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Re: Paul Espinasse and the Guinness Brewery
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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 23 August 18 16:22 BST (UK) »
Seems to only start 1754...


With regards to the 1728 Leases, was William his brother?
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Re: Paul Espinasse and the Guinness Brewery
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 23 August 18 16:47 BST (UK) »
I don't think he was a brother. The Paul whose will dates from 1739 refers to a William Espinasse as a "relation" which is unusual, but could be explained by William being married to Isabella Ward (in 1721) and Paul's daughter Susanne being married to Isabella's brother Charles Ward (in 1723). Both Ward's are referred to in this 1730 deed - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSN1-6QCQ-9?i=505&cat=185720

There is a deed from 1734 where both are described as of the "sd City Brewers" - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QW-J?i=384&cat=185720 In this deed Paul "declares that the considn money paid by sd Paul Espinasse to sd Wm Lightburne was the proper money of the sd Wm Espinasse". However there is another deed out there that says they owned different breweries.

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Re: Paul Espinasse and the Guinness Brewery
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 23 August 18 17:00 BST (UK) »
Consolidated Index to the Records of the Genealogical Office
Dublin, Ireland


ESPINASSE MS 223-54


Betham Will Abstracts 5/27, 17/233, 20/373, 30/211 -

 Lodge   6/197

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21 Pages for the MS... wow
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« Reply #15 on: Thursday 23 August 18 17:02 BST (UK) »
Grrrr... MS  32 pages!   ;D
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Re: Paul Espinasse and the Guinness Brewery
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 23 August 18 17:36 BST (UK) »
Yep, I've read all those and am still looking for the answer. Throw in the Huguenot Parish Registers, plus various COI Registers, or even http://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/ee/espinasse1.php

The missing detail is the source of the Drogheda story. It's not mentioned in 1928 version of "Guide to St. James's Gate Brewery" https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=cbi5AAAAIAAJ&q=drogheda#v=onepage&q=espinasse&f=false or the 1931 version https://books.google.co.uk/books?redir_esc=y&id=k7i5AAAAIAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=drogheda but is in 1939 https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=-7u5AAAAIAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=drogheda

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Re: Paul Espinasse and the Guinness Brewery
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 23 August 18 17:51 BST (UK) »
Well if he's not in the 32 page MS it's very difficult to say...
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