Ealing & Old Brentford Cemetery

[Ruskie]

This is Number 89 Southfield Road (now a doctor's surgery):
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mn8/

Referring back to the map I posted previously:
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=19&lat=51.5026&lon=-0.2605&layers=170&right=BingHyb

You can see that No 89 is on a corner and likely to have been a shop.  You can see that the property has an additional building behind "the shop" (viewable on google street view from Strauss Road) which looks to have been accommodation and bakery, ovens etc.

(I am using my imagination a bit with that assumption.) 

Look at the building at number 75 Southfield Road, on the corner of Bonheur Road. It looks to be fairly original and untainted http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mn9/ .

The old map indicates that the buildings at No 89 and No 75 are identical with slight differences to the buildings behind/alongside the shops.

I think that your Bakery at no 89 would have looked very similar to this.

 

[cupcake]

This is Number 89 Southfield Road (now a doctor's surgery):
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mn8/

Referring back to the map I posted previously:
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=19&lat=51.5026&lon=-0.2605&layers=170&right=BingHyb

You can see that No 89 is on a corner and likely to have been a shop.  You can see that the property has an additional building behind "the shop" (viewable on google street view from Strauss Road) which looks to have been accommodation and bakery, ovens etc.

(I am using my imagination a bit with that assumption.) 

Look at the building at number 75 Southfield Road, on the corner of Bonheur Road. It looks to be fairly original and untainted http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mn9/ .

The old map indicates that the buildings at No 89 and No 75 are identical with slight differences to the buildings behind/alongside the shops.

I think that your Bakery at no 89 would have looked very similar to this.

 

Looking at the map you previously posted 75 and 89 do appear the same corner shape. And, I see the added on building at 89.

Thank you for photo of  75 Southfield Road, on the corner of Bonheur Road. I agree with you it looks to  be fairly original and untainted.

I think my Bakery at No 89 would have looked very similar. (I like you using your imagination a bit with that assumption.   ) 

Does give me a better picture of where Thomas and his family lived and that he did have his own Bakers. There certainly looked enough room for them all.

Once again many thanks.

cupcake

[dawnsh]

I just want to add here that I have been in touch with cupcake off-forum.

I visited the grave on Saturday, it is now unmarked.

I did lay a bunch of flowers as a token of respect.

It has since come to light that despite the cemetery office claims that the transcriptions and images online at Ancestry are a true reflection of their holdings, this is not the case.

In trying to correctly identify the plot there are headstones with inscriptions for which there are not transcriptions but the information does appear in actual burial register images.

It is also noted that in this case, the register image is not available. I have contacted the office and received a copy from them of the missing image.

The burial register confirms that Seymour is buried with her babies and that an inscribed vase was placed as a marker.

The cemetery office may try to contact Ancestry with regards to the missing images and missing transriptions but as with other datasets I wouldn't hold my breath for them to be added anytime soon.

[louisa maud]

Oh Dawn, what good news for cupcake, I am sure will be overwhelmed, she wanted to find them altogether, your persistence paid off

Louisa Maud

[cupcake]

I just want to add here that I have been in touch with cupcake off-forum.

I visited the grave on Saturday, it is now unmarked.

I did lay a bunch of flowers as a token of respect.

It has since come to light that despite the cemetery office claims that the transcriptions and images online at Ancestry are a true reflection of their holdings, this is not the case.

In trying to correctly identify the plot there are headstones with inscriptions for which there are not transcriptions but the information does appear in actual burial register images.

It is also noted that in this case, the register image is not available. I have contacted the office and received a copy from them of the missing image.

The burial register confirms that Seymour is buried with her babies and that an inscribed vase was placed as a marker.

The cemetery office may try to contact Ancestry with regards to the missing images and missing transriptions but as with other datasets I wouldn't hold my breath for them to be added anytime soon.

This has been an emotional conclusion. With grateful thanks for everything you have done Dawn.

cupcake

[cupcake]

Received information on Monday regarding Michael R Kidman's death in 2001

Michael was Seymour's only brother, and would have been 16 years old at the time of her death.

He died in Bangor, Caernarvon, Wales 2001 He is buried with his wife Mary. So, I have been most fortunate this week, to get brother and sister death details.

cupcake

[louisa maud]

Good all round results then Cupcake, been an interesting conclusion

Louisa Maud

[cupcake]

Where did you originally get the number "8" from cupcake?

From the 1939 )? on Ancestry. Perhaps I wrote 8 down instead of 89. I am just finding my way around Ancestry which I get access to at my local library.

cupcake

[Ruskie]

Where did you originally get the number "8" from cupcake?

From the 1939 )? on Ancestry. Perhaps I wrote 8 down instead of 89. I am just finding my way around Ancestry which I get access to at my local library.

cupcake

Could be an error cupcake. No matter - the number 89 seems to be the correct one.

I am glad you have found everyone you are looking for. (excellent work Dawn)