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Surrey 1851 & 1861 census
« on: Tuesday 28 August 18 03:45 BST (UK) »
Kia ora

I have been trying to ind Edward & Mary Risbridger on the 1851 & 1961 census to no avail.  I have tried a variety o spellings.  If anyone has the time to look I would be extremely grateful.

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Bronwen Summers, Christchurch, NZ

Edward Risbridger husband of Mary Howick
b.1792?
m.1811 Nov 6 Mary Howick, Horley, Surrey, Eng.
d.1873 Oct>Dec, aged 81 Guildford, Surrey, Eng. (reg)
Census
1841 Census Ag Labourer, living at Mead Row, Farncombe, Godalming, Surrey, Eng
1851
1861
Children 6
1812 Nov 8 Mary Risbridger
1814 Aug 7 Martha Risbridger
1816 April 21 Hannah Risbridger
1820 Apr 9 Jane Risbridger
1822 June 9 Phillis Risbridger
1827 July 1 Edward Risbridger, m.1856 Oct>Dec Mary Ann Gravat, Guildford, Eng.


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Re: Surrey 1851 & 1861 census
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 28 August 18 05:11 BST (UK) »
Could his first wife have died??  :-\  1851Living at Norfolk Arms Inn, Horsham, Sussex??

Edward Risbridger     62    Inn Keeper Ag Labourer    Newdigate, Surrey
Ann    Risbridger 54    Ockley, Surrey
Mary    Edwards    Daughter    23    Horsham, Sussex,
William Edwards    Son In Law    29       Ag Lab    Horsham, Sussex
Emma Edwards    Grand Daughter 3 Scholar    Horsham, Sussex
Eliza    Edwards    Grand Daughter    2    Horsham, Sussex,
Emily    Edwards    Grand Daughter  0 Horsham, Sussex,
Alexander    Barfoot    Lodger    Widower    Male    67    Formerly Farmer     Horley, Surrey,

Sorry - obviously the wrong family as they are together in  1841  :-\

Added - The 1856 marriage of Edward Risbridger to Mary Ann Gravat at Farncombe is online on Anc and Edward is widower age 64 from Meadrow - Father John Risbridger

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Re: Surrey 1851 & 1861 census
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 28 August 18 06:21 BST (UK) »
Thanks I had looked at that other family.

Are you saying that at the time of Edward and Mary Ann Gravat's marriage (1856) that Edward who was married to Mary is 64 and a widow?

I have Mary dying age 66 in Farncombe St John the Evangelist in 1860.


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Re: Surrey 1851 & 1861 census
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 28 August 18 06:26 BST (UK) »
Yes the Edward who married is 1856 was a widower (sorry re widow) age 64

I wonder if this was your Edward in 1861?   Living at London Road, Godalming, Guildford
Elizabeth    Cheston    Head    Married 35    1826 Godalming, Surrey
Edward Rushbridge Lodger    Widower    68    Labourer    Wonersh, Surrey
William Cox Lodger    34    1827    Labourer    Godalming, Surrey

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Re: Surrey 1851 & 1861 census
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 28 August 18 06:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Bronwen,

1851 Mead RowGodalming (HO107/1594/F?)
Edward Risbridge, 65, Un, Head, Woodman, b. Godalming
Margaret Gr?ess, 44, lodger, un, b. Silbourne.

Jo  :)
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Re: Surrey 1851 & 1861 census
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 28 August 18 07:50 BST (UK) »
I should have added that on the 1856 marriage at Farncombe Mary Ann Gravat is listed as a widow age 63 with father Samuel Turville.   It does look like the couple Jo found in 1851 and possibly Mary Ann is the death you found at Farncombe in 1860

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Re: Surrey 1851 & 1861 census
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 28 August 18 10:20 BST (UK) »
My response to both of you in brackets after each section.  I put them in in colour but it removes the colour.  Of course the whole thing could be up the pole, it wouldn't be the first time.  Regards Bronwen

I wonder if this was your Edward in 1861?   Living at London Road, Godalming, Guildford
Elizabeth    Cheston    Head    Married 35    1826 Godalming, Surrey
Edward Rushbridge Lodger    Widower    68    Labourer    Wonersh, Surrey
William Cox Lodger    34    1827    Labourer    Godalming, Surrey
(Could be right age -  his wife died the year before)

1851 Mead RowGodalming (HO107/1594/F?)
Edward Risbridge, 65, Un, Head, Woodman, b. Godalming
Margaret Gr?ess, 44, lodger, un, b. Silbourne.
(His wife was still alive for the 1851 census.)

I should have added that on the 1856 marriage at Farncombe Mary Ann Gravat is listed as a widow age 63 with father Samuel Turville.   
It does look like the couple Jo found in 1851 and possibly Mary Ann is the death you found at Farncombe in 1860

(A 29 year old man, marries a 63 year old widow?  Is that very likely?
1827 July 1 Edward Risbridger, m.1856 Oct>Dec Mary Ann Gravat, a widow aged 63 Farncombe, Guildford, Eng.)
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Re: Surrey 1851 & 1861 census
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 28 August 18 11:45 BST (UK) »
Bronwen, the 1851 census address of Mead Row Godalming is the same address you gave for Edward and Mary in 1841.

Are you sure that his wife Mary died after 1851?
Are you sure the Edward and Mary in the 1841 are the right Edward and Mary?

Jo  :)
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Re: Surrey 1851 & 1861 census
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 28 August 18 12:09 BST (UK) »
Bronwen - Sorry that I was unclear about the 1856 marriage at Farncombe.   I attach a small extract of the marriage cert (we can't post the whole document) with Edward Risbridger listed a widower of 64 and Mary Ann Gravat listed as a widow of 63 and both were living at Meadrow.

As Jo said the 1841 census for Edward and his original wife Mary shows them as Meadrow - the same address as the 1851  and1861 census we posted.  I think that the original wife Mary quite possibly died pre 1851 and in 1856 Edward (Snr) marrried Mary Ann (his lodger in 1851) who died in 1860 in Francombe.  Doesn't help that both wives were named Mary  or that he had a son Edward :)

Kay