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Re: Surrey 1851 & 1861 census
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 28 August 18 12:19 BST (UK) »
This is possibly the marriage of Edward Junior....
Edward Risbridger, age 30, father Edward Risbridger, married Elizabeth Scott, age 39, father John Scott, 21 Jan 1857 at Burstow Surrey.

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Re: Surrey 1851 & 1861 census
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 28 August 18 12:32 BST (UK) »
That marriage looks good Jo.   

I think this is the couple in 1861 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2MP-MCT5  with Edward born Horley Surrey which ties in with this baptism https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NRH9-TMW

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Re: Surrey 1851 & 1861 census
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 28 August 18 12:49 BST (UK) »
This is confusing.....
I can only see two ER born abt 1792....
Your ER bap 1792 in Bramley to John and Martha, married to Mary Howick in 1811
And ER bap 1791 in Newdigate to Edward, beer keeper, found easily on census records, married to Ann Pratt in 1814....

So who is the ER who married Jane Gardener in Godalming in 1817? She is likely the Jane who was buried in Godalming in 1835, age 42.

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Re: Surrey 1851 & 1861 census
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 28 August 18 13:23 BST (UK) »
The third ER may well  have moved there from another area or be older  :-\

Kay

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Re: Surrey 1851 & 1861 census
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 28 August 18 21:57 BST (UK) »
Great thanks to you both I think I now have it sorted and need to re-look at who his father was - I had an Edward but I need to find a John.  I also need to find Edward's birth.
Can you tell me what 'Un' means?

Many thanks Bronwen

Edward Risbridger husband of Mary Howick
b.1792       Wonersh, Surrey   Godalming
m.1811 Nov 6 Mary Howick, Horley, Surrey, Eng.
m.1856 Oct-Dec Mary Ann Gravat, a widow aged 63 Farncombe, Guildford, Eng. (reg)
d.1873 Oct>Dec, aged 81 Guildford, Surrey, Eng. (reg)
Census
1841 Edward Ag Labourer, living at Mead Row, Farncombe, Godalming, Surrey, Eng
1851 Edward Risbridge, 65, Un, Head, Woodman, b. Godalming Margaret Gr?ess, 44, lodger, un, b. Silbourne Row, Farncombe, Godalming, Surrey, Eng (reg.)
1861 Edward Rushbridge 68 widower a lodger at London Road, Godalming, Guildford others living there are Elizabeth Cheston Head Married 35 born 1826 in Godalming, Surrey and William Cox 34 labourer born 1827 Godalming a Lodger
1871 age 79 a widow ag lab. Inmate at Guildford Union Workhouse, Stoke, Guildford, Surrey, Eng.

I will sort this out also
father Samuel Turville.   
possibly Mary Ann is the death you found at Farncombe in 1860
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Re: Surrey 1851 & 1861 census
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 28 August 18 23:04 BST (UK) »
Moving along - where can I find these?
Your ER bap 1792 in Bramley to John and Martha, married to Mary Howick in 1811
And ER bap 1791 in Newdigate to Edward, beer keeper, found easily on census records, married to Ann Pratt in 1814....

I can see a Charlotte, Mary, Jesse and a John on Family search whose parents are John and Martha but not Edward?

Mary Risbridger who died pre 1851, two possibilities on Genes United which is the site I have use of at the moment and I also use 'family search'.
Apr>Jun 1844, Reigate, Surrey
Oct>Dec 1848, Guildford, Surrey

Many thanks
Bronwen on a dreary almost spring day!
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Re: Surrey 1851 & 1861 census
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 29 August 18 04:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Bronwen

Un on the census means Unmarried but could just mean that the person was unmarried at the time of the census as both Edward and Margaret (the image looks like Mary Ann) in 1861 were listed as Un and both had lost a previous spouse     I think is the first marriage of Mary Ann to John Grevatt https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N28W-4D7   and a John Grevatt age 40 died in Guildford in 1849

Re possible deaths for Edward R's first wife Mary try using the GRO Death Index https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp   You have to register but it is free and free to search and the age of the person is listed.   You might also find their birth index useful as the child's mother's maiden name is listed.   

Both possible bapt for Edward R are on Family Search  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NKTF-J4H   and  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NPYT-9KM   but given his father is named as John on his 1856 marriage the first looks the most likely    Possible marriage of his parents at Wonersh not far from Farncombe https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NV3X-FJR    And Family Search has a possible burial for Martha Risbridger age 71  29 July 1832 at Godalming, Surrey

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Re: Surrey 1851 & 1861 census
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 29 August 18 05:21 BST (UK) »
Great thanks I will have a look at all that and come back when I have figured it out...

I thought afterwards it meant unmarried, silly me.

I knew about the GRO index but I haven't really used it and din't realise it was free.

Regards Bronwen
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Re: Surrey 1851 & 1861 census
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 29 August 18 06:09 BST (UK) »
Okay I have now gone through all that but haven't proceeded to the GRO index yet.

In the 1851 census it says Edward Risbridger (born 1792) was born in Guildford and somewhere else it said he was born in Wornesh.

I assume - I know one should never assume anything when studying ones family tree...
that the three children (parents John & Martha) at the end are siblings to Edward, Martha and Elizabeth and that the family moved to Wornesh - I did have a look at the map and this seemed likely. 

Many thanks for helping me with all this
Bronwen

1770 RISBRIDGER
John Risbridger
b.1770?
m.1792 Apr 10 Martha ? Wornesh, Surrey, Eng.
d.

Martha ? wife of John Risbridger and mother of Edward Risbridger
b.1770?
m.1792 Apr 10 John Risbridger, Wornesh, Surrey, Eng.
d.
Children 1
1792 Aug 19 Edward Risbridger, Bramley, Surrey, Eng
1793 Oct 13 Martha Risbridger, Bramley, Surrey, Eng.
1793 Oct 13 Elizabeth Risbridger, Bramley, Surrey, Eng

3 children born in Wornesh
1796 Charlotte
1798 Mary
1800 Jesse
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