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Re: Knowles family of Manchester
« Reply #9 on: Friday 31 August 18 01:03 BST (UK) »
Cornelius dies about 1857 but his daughter marries James Wardle in 1893.
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Re: Knowles family of Manchester
« Reply #10 on: Friday 31 August 18 06:32 BST (UK) »
Theres at least two John Knowles marrying Hannahs. One in 1794 to Hannah Butcher and the next in 1814 to Hannah Smith. There of course may be others and these people may have moved to different parts of Derbyshire with work.

I had a look through the baptism register for Youlgreave.

John Knowles + Hannah (big gaps here so could be two John and Hannahs)
Cornelius born 1815 in Youlgreave
Maria born 1829 in Youlgreave
Maria born 1831 in Youlgreave
Hannah born 1835 in Youlgreave

In all cases their father was a miner.

Robert Knowles + Mary
Isaac born 1823 in Alport
Joseph born 1821in Alport
William born 1819 in Alport

In these baptisms their father was listed as a miner and labourer

William Knowles + Elizabeth
William born 1817 in Youlgreave
Ann born 1815 in Youlgreave

Their father listed as a labourer

John Knowles + Mary
Sarah born 1817 in Youlgreave
Elizabeth born 1814 in Youlgreave

Their father listed as a labourer.
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White - Shalden, Alton, Chawton-Hampshire
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Franklin/Fraenkel - New Zealand, Prussia
Day - Echuca, Tongala, London, Fairford-Gloucestershire
Clark/McGraw - New Zealand, Ireland, England
McMahon -Ipswich-QLD, Kiladysart-Co Clare
Smith - Ipswich, Pine Mountain, Redbank-QLD, Co Westmeath, Co Cavan-Ireland
McGuire - Redbank - QLD, Co Westmeath-Ireland
Culhane - Queensland, Ardlaghan - Co Limerick

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Re: Knowles family of Manchester
« Reply #11 on: Friday 31 August 18 08:13 BST (UK) »
The Cornelius Knowles death 1857 Bakewell shows he was 42 which fits the 1815 birth

Daughter Mary Ellen born Dec qtr 1853 Bakewell so looks like they moved to Derbyshire soon after marrying

A Martha Knowles married 1859 Bakewell to either Benjamin Gregory or William Dakin but don't know if it's the same Martha

A Benjamin Gregory mmn Jackson was b Dec qtr 1861 Bakewell
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Re: Knowles family of Manchester
« Reply #12 on: Friday 31 August 18 11:20 BST (UK) »
There is a Christening of an Adam Knowles at Youlgreave, 2 May 1790.

Parents...Wm. & Jane, which fits with 2 of their children & the place of birth of Cornelius.

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 Lees:Prestwich/Manchester, Wild : Manchester/Salford,
Davies/Williams :Ruabon/Wrexham
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Re: Knowles family of Manchester
« Reply #13 on: Friday 31 August 18 13:53 BST (UK) »
The 1861 for Derbyshire

Benjamin Gregory 58 b Youlgreave
Martha 44 b Conister Yorkshire
Mary Ellen 7 b Youlgreave (shown as Gregory - daughter)
RG9 piece 2540  Folio 75   Page   23

Family Search shows Mary Ellen Knowles baptised 1854 parents Cornelius and Martha
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Re: Knowles family of Manchester
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 02 September 18 11:53 BST (UK) »
Very interesting - Thank you!

Eric where did you find the 1790 Adam Knowles birth in Youlgreave?
McGaveston - Dublin-Ireland, France, New Zealand
White - Shalden, Alton, Chawton-Hampshire
O'Donnell - New Zealand, Co Down-Northern Ireland, USA
Franklin/Fraenkel - New Zealand, Prussia
Day - Echuca, Tongala, London, Fairford-Gloucestershire
Clark/McGraw - New Zealand, Ireland, England
McMahon -Ipswich-QLD, Kiladysart-Co Clare
Smith - Ipswich, Pine Mountain, Redbank-QLD, Co Westmeath, Co Cavan-Ireland
McGuire - Redbank - QLD, Co Westmeath-Ireland
Culhane - Queensland, Ardlaghan - Co Limerick

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Re: Knowles family of Manchester
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 02 September 18 16:26 BST (UK) »
A*y: Derbyshire C of E Baptisms, Burials & Marriages.

Sadly, it doesn't give any more info.

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Jones:Middleton, Howarth:Manchester, Dean:Ardwick/Manchester, Harvey:Nth Manchester & Elland/West Yorks,  Tattersall:Manchester/Salford/Burnley,  
 Lees:Prestwich/Manchester, Wild : Manchester/Salford,
Davies/Williams :Ruabon/Wrexham
Peace: Burton on Trent

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Re: Knowles family of Manchester
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 08 September 18 02:08 BST (UK) »
Hi - many thanks for your suggestions and help.

Is there anything else I could do to determine this is the right Adam Knowles?

There is a marriage of William Knowles to Jane Oldfield in 1789 in Youlgreave. Witnesses Hugh Hale and John Keeling.
McGaveston - Dublin-Ireland, France, New Zealand
White - Shalden, Alton, Chawton-Hampshire
O'Donnell - New Zealand, Co Down-Northern Ireland, USA
Franklin/Fraenkel - New Zealand, Prussia
Day - Echuca, Tongala, London, Fairford-Gloucestershire
Clark/McGraw - New Zealand, Ireland, England
McMahon -Ipswich-QLD, Kiladysart-Co Clare
Smith - Ipswich, Pine Mountain, Redbank-QLD, Co Westmeath, Co Cavan-Ireland
McGuire - Redbank - QLD, Co Westmeath-Ireland
Culhane - Queensland, Ardlaghan - Co Limerick