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Re: Christopher jordan ,dornoch 1916
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 13 September 18 13:37 BST (UK) »
A bit earlier than your dates but may be connected to Walter Cowan although you would need to do some digging as none of these were born in Dornoch.

I not sure Annie if Walter cowen was born in dornoch or if he worked there with his company 1915_16
1901

Skibo Barracks, Dornoch, Sutherland (I couldn’t find anything about this place)


Robert Cowan 20 b Ayr, Ayrshire, Plumber

Source Citation
Parish: Dornoch; ED: 5; Page: 9; Line: 15; Roll: CSSCT1901_13

Others listed & born different places had these occupations;

Blacksmiths
Electrical Engineers
File Fevers (The original image would confirm what this is)?
Heating Engineers
Joiner Apprentice
Joiners
Mosaic Worker
Sculptor


Original on scotlandspeople.gov.uk
COWAN ROBERT 20
1901
047/ 5/ 9 Dornoch, Sutherland

Also;

COWAN JOHN HOPE 21
1911
047/ 4/ 8 Dornoch, Sutherland

You would need to look at the original to see where he was living & his occ.

He’s traceable on scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Annie

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Re: Christopher jordan ,dornoch 1916
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 13 September 18 13:48 BST (UK) »
The angle I was suggesting was, none of the people on the 1901 census were born in Dornoch i.e. only working there.

Walter Cowan may or may not have been working there himself & as the census was only 1 night in 1 yr it's impossible to speculate anything.

He may have been the 'Boss' of the company, coming & going at different times although not actually living there hence my suggestion of doing a bit of digging.

The lad on the 1911 census was born/married/died in Scotland i.e. traceable as to a possible link with Walter.

I haven't looked for Robert Cowan yet as he was earlier but also John Hope Cowan was easier to trace with having a middle name.

There may be no connection at all with either Cowans but that's part of genealogy, digging to find out possibilities.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

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Re: Christopher jordan ,dornoch 1916
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 13 September 18 14:22 BST (UK) »
COWAN JOHN HOPE 21
1911
047/ 4/ 8 Dornoch, Sutherland

You would need to look at the original to see where he was living & his occ.

He’s traceable on scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Just to clarify, there are no transcriptions of the Scottish 1911 census' anywhere.

Annie

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Christopher jordan ,dornoch 1916
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 13 September 18 14:23 BST (UK) »
The angle I was suggesting was, none of the people on the 1901 census were born in Dornoch i.e. only working there.

Walter Cowan may or may not have been working there himself & as the census was only 1 night in 1 yr it's impossible to speculate anything.
Thanks Annie
Diarmuid

He may have been the 'Boss' of the company, coming & going at different times although not actually living there hence my suggestion of doing a bit of digging.

The lad on the 1911 census was born/married/died in Scotland i.e. traceable as to a possible link with Walter.

I haven't looked for Robert Cowan yet as he was earlier but also John Hope Cowan was easier to trace with having a middle name.

There may be no connection at all with either Cowans but that's part of genealogy, digging to find out possibilities.

Annie


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Re: Christopher jordan ,dornoch 1916
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 13 September 18 14:31 BST (UK) »
Can I just ask why you're quoting everything as it's a bit confusing at times, your replies are hard to find? No reply in your last quote?

Annie

Edit...I see your reply now  ;)

Best to add your reply at the bottom, easier to see

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Christopher jordan ,dornoch 1916
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 13 September 18 14:40 BST (UK) »
Can I just ask why you're quoting everything as it's a bit confusing at times, your replies are hard to find? No reply in your last quote?

Annie

Edit...I see your reply now  ;)

Best to add your reply at the bottom, easier to see

Oh sorry Annie , yes going by the Dublin metropolitan police report after Christopher jordan death on April 29th 1916 there reports states that Christopher worked for Walter cowen,s contractors in dornoch Scotland and was home holidays for the Easter , will I send you report Annie

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Re: Christopher jordan ,dornoch 1916
« Reply #24 on: Friday 14 September 18 00:26 BST (UK) »
If you want to post a cropped image of the wording re Walter Cowan that's fine.

It's difficult to know exactly how to interpret the wording;

"Christopher worked for Walter cowen,s contractors in dornoch Scotland"

To me this could mean either of 2 things  :-\

Christopher was working in Dornoch for Walter Cowan's Contractors (who were based in Dornoch)

or

Christopher was working in Dornoch for Walter Cowan's Contractors (who were based elsewhere)?

I can't find a Walter Cowan (with a wide window) in either;
1901 census/1905 vrs/1911 census/1915 vrs/1920 vrs

I searched neighbouring counties with all of the above i.e. Sutherland/Caithness/Ross (& Cromarty) & I'm of the belief Walter was indeed from elsewhere but how he had work in Sutherland is anyones guess  :-\

Annie

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Christopher jordan ,dornoch 1916
« Reply #25 on: Friday 14 September 18 02:14 BST (UK) »
Hmmm...I wonder if this is Walter Cowan in your quest?

Cowan Walter 3/11/1920
Contractor 6 Ancaster Drive, Anniesland, Glasgow, d. 21/04/1920 at Glasgow, testate.
Glasgow Sheriff Court Wills
SC36/51/188

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Cowan Walter 3/11/1920
6 Ancaster Drive, Anniesland, Glasgow, d. 21/04/1920 at Glasgow, testate.
Glasgow Sheriff Court Inventories
SC36/48/314

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Christopher jordan ,dornoch 1916
« Reply #26 on: Friday 14 September 18 02:35 BST (UK) »
Walters' death appears to be one of 2 death entries on SP 1920 (Lanark) although geographically I believe the 1st to be most likely although he could have died away from home?

COWAN WALTER 81
1920
644/12 404 Hillhead

COWAN WALTER 74
1920
644/19 271 Shettleston (Lanark)

An obit would be good to find!

Annie

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"