Author Topic: Baptism of Ann SARSON abt 1791  (Read 1548 times)

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Re: Baptism of Ann SARSON abt 1791
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 08 September 18 05:18 BST (UK) »
Hello Willsy & DCB,

Thanks so much for your contributions.

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Re: Baptism of Ann SARSON abt 1791
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 08 September 18 06:18 BST (UK) »
The possible burial is at Welford Road

Unconsecated
I   546   Common   
GARNER   Ann   1853   DEC   25   age 67   RUTLAND STREET   SAINT GEORGE

Next burial is 1877

Hello Willsy,

What is the reference for Ann's burial please.  Was she buried Primitive Methodist??  Where did you locate the record???

Thanks so much.

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Re: Baptism of Ann SARSON abt 1791
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 08 September 18 10:30 BST (UK) »
The reference to the burial is on Familysearch but gives James, incorrectly, as the father - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPCN-6BZR

Leicestershire Mercury 18th November 1854:
At Hill Street Chapel, on the 14th inst., by the Rev. E. Watmough, Mr. George Matthews, Olive Street, to Naomi, daughter of the late Mr. J. Garner, of this town.

Now destroyed, this was a United Methodist Chapel, Lower Hill street.

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Re: Baptism of Ann SARSON abt 1791
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 08 September 18 19:43 BST (UK) »
Hello Westy

The reference is from a disc that has burials at Welford Road, Ann was referenced as

GARNER   ANN   1853   DEC   25   67   RUTLAND STREET   SAINT GEORGE   uI   546   C

from that you know it's unconsecrated and in this case a common burial. From I 546, you can then cross reference and find everyone in the grave.



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Re: Baptism of Ann SARSON abt 1791
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 09 September 18 09:21 BST (UK) »
thanks so much Willsy,

Another question - what is a common burial?  I think it means that many people are interred in the same place but i wanted to check with you.

The 'unconsecrated' aspect is interesting and I admit to not being 100% certain as to its meaning/implication in this instance.
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Re: Baptism of Ann SARSON abt 1791
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 09 September 18 20:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Westy

Common burial is  the term for a grave in which no private burial rights existed. Families could just about afford a very basic burial but not a private grave so common graves could be filled over the course of a few days with the bodies of unrelated people who died during that time period.
Have come across family together if they died within a period close together.

Unconsecrated ground as I understand were for non-conformist religions, those buried in consecrated ground would have been members of the Church of England. I know there are other things to consider such as suicide which might affect a burial but thought this was a good explanation

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mok/

When most cemeteries were designed and opened, certain parts were formally blessed by dignitaries of the Church of England, thereby consecrating the ground prior to burial. However, it was also recognised that people from other religious denominations such as would also wish to be buried in the cemeteries, therefore some areas were left unconsecrated by the Church of England.

When a burial takes place in an unconsecrated part of the cemetery, the minister representing the religious belief of the deceased will conduct a service at the graveside, thereby blessing that individual grave at the time of burial.

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Re: Baptism of Ann SARSON abt 1791
« Reply #15 on: Monday 10 September 18 07:56 BST (UK) »
Hello Willsy,

Thanks so much for the full explanation and the web link.

Thats really helpful.

Regards,

Westy