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Re: High House in Monkton, near Hebburn - history of the house & property?
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 12 September 18 05:55 BST (UK) »
Re Campbell Street ... I did a bit of googling and found that Campbell St was at Hebburn Quay. I found this map and wonder if what is now Campbell Park Rd, used to be known as Campbell Street?

It is intersects with Hedgeley Road, but neither of them are on this map as the area was not yet developed:
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=17&lat=54.9767&lon=-1.5140&layers=168&right=BingHyb

(you can see Hebburn Quay top left of the old map)

A later map:
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=54.9759&lon=-1.5119&layers=10&right=BingHyb
(sadly, no street names)  :(

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Re: High House in Monkton, near Hebburn - history of the house & property?
« Reply #37 on: Wednesday 12 September 18 09:16 BST (UK) »
You need a subscription for old-maps.co.uk, but not for the NLS maps. :)
You only need a subscription if you want to see the maximum zoom, otherwise it is free.
Campbell Street https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/430999/565075/13/101329
If you keep zooming out you will get the modern map, and using the four arrows in the top right corner you can go full screen.
Or https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=17&lat=54.9798&lon=-1.5169&layers=168&right=BingHyb
Are you sure his final UK address was 66 Campbell Street? as the numbers only go up to 48, as shown on the map.
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Re: High House in Monkton, near Hebburn - history of the house & property?
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 12 September 18 09:50 BST (UK) »
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Re: High House in Monkton, near Hebburn - history of the house & property?
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 12 September 18 10:13 BST (UK) »
Looking at the maps in Stan's links, Campbell Street continues in a south westerly direction and the name changes to Campbell Street South on the 1941 1:2500 map. This part of the street is named Campbell Park Road by the 1957 1:1250 map but the numbering seems to have continued from Campbell Street so 66 Campbell Park Road may well have been 66 Campbell Street prior to 1941
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Re: High House in Monkton, near Hebburn - history of the house & property?
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 12 September 18 10:55 BST (UK) »
You need a subscription for old-maps.co.uk, but not for the NLS maps. :)
You only need a subscription if you want to see the maximum zoom, otherwise it is free.
Campbell Street https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/430999/565075/13/101329


Of course. I should have been clearer.

Glad to see I was "getting warm" with my suggestion of Campbell Park Road = Campbell Street. I should have looked further north because it is on the NLS map I posted earlier.  :)
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=18&lat=54.9793&lon=-1.5171&layers=168&right=BingHyb

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Re: High House in Monkton, near Hebburn - history of the house & property?
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 12 September 18 11:30 BST (UK) »
66 Campbell Park Road may well have been 66 Campbell Street prior to 1941

It would be 66 Campbell Street South

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Re: High House in Monkton, near Hebburn - history of the house & property?
« Reply #42 on: Wednesday 12 September 18 14:48 BST (UK) »
I can't see that anyone has looked at the Electoral Rolls on FindMyPast on this or the other thread.

There's various Coulson's on the ER's for 1918, 1920 to 1922, unfortunately there is no actual address only 'Monkton'.

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Jane, along with Henry and Frederick are listed on the ER at 54 Jutland Avenue, Hebburn New Town, Spring 1923.  There's several other Coulson's listed at 7 Station Road, 29 Aln Street and 66 Campbell Street.  I can post up the details if you can't access these yourself on FindMyPast.

Cheers
Jay


Sorry Jay,

I have just tinkered with the Electoral Roll category in FindMyPast and I can't see any of the records you are speaking of. There must be something I am doing wrong.
I have opened the UK & Wales ER for 1920-1932 but all I see in the index for Fred Coulson are records from 1920.


Some further questions, BTW:
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I'm still not clear on whether women appear in the ER by the 1920s.
Could I use ER to find Freddy's sisters Lily & Jane, who should be voting age? (Which leads to the next question)
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I don't see a minimum age for qualification. I see that owning or renting property of a given value or having an annual income equivalent to that amount was necessary for men when the ER was set up in 1884, but would that still apply in the 1920s?
I ask this because Freddy's youngest sister, born 1908, should be too young to appear in ER in 1923 but at some stage in later years would cross the line.
I'd rather like to be able to find where she is when she first appears in the ER.
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Oh yes, and the details for the other Coulsons you mentioned (see quote) would be worth a look at since I have become quite familiar with the larger Coulson clan in Hebburn. I should be able to spot relatives if these are in the data you collected. 

Thanks
-David C

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Re: High House in Monkton, near Hebburn - history of the house & property?
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 12 September 18 15:10 BST (UK) »
Yes, very confident that '66' Campbell St is correct as it appears on Tommy's Passenger List registration 1924 for NZ.

Have seen the discussion that Campbell St turned into Campbell Park Rd.
Question:
In the process of renaming the street in 1941, is it possible that the houses were renumbered?
I'm asking this because I'd like to Google the house from the street.

Thanks
-DC

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Re: High House in Monkton, near Hebburn - history of the house & property?
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 12 September 18 15:45 BST (UK) »
No the houses have not been renumbered It should be 66 Campbell Street South, which was renamed Campbell Park Road. The 1911 Census goes up to 48 Campbell Street, the house numbers are the same as on the 1957-58 map at https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/430999/565075/13/101329.
Street View of Number 66 Campbell Park Road https://goo.gl/maps/HiNrL2Fvmx22

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