Same birth registered twice - 6 years apart!!!

[halfasheep]

That's interesting regarding my original birth certificate. When I've had to obtain copies, nothing has gone on them stating adoption (I appreciate there might be rules regarding that as people may not be aware - mine was simply a surname change).

As it's my thread, I may hijack to ask another question Antony.

Bigamy - I have a relative who thought that would be a good idea around WW2 to have a second wife. I can't find a second marriage registered. Someone told me once that it would be struck from the records - would you know if this is the case? I know the trial was held in London and he went to prison, but there are no other details available as he's been deceased over 40 years. There is a possibility his second wife was from India where he served, but if she was in this country I can't locate a record

[Jebber]

Have you looked in the overseas marriage index to see if the marriage was recorded in India?

[halfasheep]

I have no idea where to find that Jebber. Is it on Ancestry? It's a line I've left lie for the last 10 years, but I've restarted after a long break.

All I have are his details, nothing else

[AntonyMMM]

That's interesting regarding my original birth certificate. When I've had to obtain copies, nothing has gone on them stating adoption (I appreciate there might be rules regarding that as people may not be aware - mine was simply a surname change).

Sounds like there may be some confusion about what actually happened ? If there was a legal adoption through the courts (from 1927) then the original birth entry should be annotated as adopted and that will always be shown on any certificates issued after that.

A "new" birth certificate would be issued from the entry in the Adopted Children's Register (ACR), and clearly stated as such, and would show the change of name and your "new"parents (even if one was already a parent). In many adoption cases only the "short" certificate is used because that doesn't make the adoption as apparent.

Bigamy - I have a relative who thought that would be a good idea around WW2 to have a second wife. I can't find a second marriage registered. Someone told me once that it would be struck from the records - would you know if this is the case? I know the trial was held in London and he went to prison, but there are no other details available as he's been deceased over 40 years. There is a possibility his second wife was from India where he served, but if she was in this country I can't locate a record

If the marriage was in England/Wales then you should find it in the indexes - supposedly if the registrar/GRO later became aware that a marriage was bigamous any application to obtain a certificate could be refused, but having said that I've looked at many bigamous marriages and always been able to get copies of the relevant certificates without a problem.

[halfasheep]

I know I was legally adopted as I was around 6 years old at the time, but I'm not overly worried about that.

Many thanks for the input on the marriage though - I can't find reference to it in the indexes, so if it COULD be there, then it does hint towards the overseas marriage

Thanks again. Always nice to learn something new

[Jebber]

Findmypast have the Army and Overseas marriage index if you have access. Otherwise,  if now deceased you cold post the name for someone to look for you.

[halfasheep]

I've popped a request on the Overseas board. I didn't even think there was an army marriage index, but I suppose that makes sense for overseas marriages too.

There's a possible match in Folkestone, but I'm sure a cousin said they had discounted it, but in for a penny lol!!

Thanks again

[Jon_ni]

halfasleep

even without a Findmypast subscription can still search the indexes. Click Learn more at the top & open Discover More About these Records https://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-records/british-armed-forces-and-overseas-banns-and-marriages

You can however just use the standard civil marriage search screen & it will bring up any for surnames you enter, if you want to restrict it input Optional Keyword = Overseas
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-united-kingdom-records-in-birth-marriage-death-and-parish-records/and_civil-marriage-and-divorce

The alternative BMD website also has them https://bmdregisters.co.uk/help/research-guide/rg34/

[halfasheep]

Well I've drawn a blank on the bigamy side of it. Nothing in any of the registers.

Looks like I'll have to pay £30 for his army records and hope something's in there!

Thanks all