Herbert Benjamin WILLIAMS Scavenger Hunt: Everyone Welcome To Join In

[Tephra]

Welcome to the new Scavenger Hunt, it's been a while since the last one, but I'm sure the 'Thinking Caps' are well and truly dusted off and ready to go.

This one might be a little bit tricky, but I have every faith you can help Marchbank.

 Good Luck and Good Hunting.

Barbara

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Herbert Benjamin WILLIAMS.

Herbert was my great grandfather.

He died in New Zealand 03 Mar 1916, buried Linwood Cemetery.

After marrying my great grandmother  Mary Jane LEWIS nee MILLRAY,in Christchurch, New Zealand on 30 Dec 1886. They had nine children born between 1889 - 1906 in Christchurch ( I have most of these details).

Herbert put his age as 43 on his marriage cert, and this ties in with the details on his death cert. This puts his birth at c1843.

According to his death cert he had been in NZ for 51 years, so arrived c1865 ( cannot find this detail)

After this everything is very vague and unsubstantiated.

Also according to his marriage cert and death cert he was born in London. Marriage cert states father was John Herbert WILLIAMS and Sarah EVERETT(probably).

I have a marriage certificate that I have long believed was the right one for a John Herbert WILLIAMS marrying a Sarah EVERETT in Islington, Middlesex 23 Nov 1841. But because I can find nothing else I am wondering if I have been in the "wrong forest" all these years.


Can any one find any little detail to help me prove/disprove this link?

Can anyone find any mention of Herbert's birth or baptism?

Any sign of him on any census 1841- 1861?

Really really looking forward to some suggestions or help. He has baffled me for a very many years.

[Dundee]

Unnamed WILLIAMS male child, mother EVERETT.

WILLIAMS, -        
Mother's maiden surname: EVERETT 
GRO Reference: 1842  D Quarter in MARYLEBONE  Volume 01  Page 205

Debra 

[majm]

Have you accessed the Intention To Marry information in case there's further information to be found there? 

Sample of what is found on NZ ones from that era:
http://www.lynly.gen.nz/BDMregisterITMNZ.pdf   

NZ board may be helpful - perhaps a look up request for their ITMs .... 
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/new-zealand/

JM

[majm]

St Marys Islington,
#119       
Married after banns,
23 November 1842   oops,  edit  1841 
John Herbert WILLIAMS of full age, Bachelor, Victualler, of Bunhill Row,  son of John WILLIAMS, Artist
And
Sarah EVERETT, Minor, Spinster, (no occupation recorded) of 6 Vittoria Street, daughter of
Benjamin EVERETT, Gardener

Both signed, so too their witnesses

JM

[majm]

http://www.maps-of-london.com/map-finsbury-5.jpg
Bunhill Row enquiry : http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=631509.0

 

JM

[jim1]

This seems to be the family in 1861 but no Herbert:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mov/

[ShaunJ]

There were lots of pubs in and around Bunhill Row. There was a John Williams at the Barley Mow in Blue Anchor Alley in 1842 https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs/StLuke/BarleyMow.shtml

[Lady Di]

St Marys Islington,
#119       
Married after banns,
23 November 1842   oops,  edit  1841 
John Herbert WILLIAMS of full age, Bachelor, Victualler, of Bunhill Row,  son of John WILLIAMS, Artist
And
Sarah EVERETT, Minor, Spinster, (no occupation recorded) of 6 Vittoria Street, daughter of
Benjamin EVERETT, Gardener

Both signed, so too their witnesses

JM

Looks like this might be the same lady -

Sarah EVERETT, bp: 24 Feb 1822 Tolleshunt D'Arcy Essex, dau of Benjamin & Sarah Everett, a Gardener of this parish.

There appears to be a few different Everett families in this parish.

[Meriel]

This seems to be the family in 1861 but no Herbert:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mov/

In the bottom right of this map - if you see the green patch which is St Dunstan's Church, Stepney - Bull Lane is just north of the church with Pedlars Orchard leading off it:

http://london1864.com/stanford33b.htm