Henry Thomas HARGRAVE - Where did he go after 1929?

[Jamjar]

Question .... could Darcyville and Kingsford be different names for same suburb?  or could 24 Cook Parade Darcyville ever be considered as Kingsford?

1935 NSW ER
I have found there's Two people listed at 24 Cook Ave, Darceyville with the 'right' spelling for the surname. 

JM

Google has it as Daceyville. Yes, it’s Kingsford.

J.

[Jamjar]

At Eastern Suburbs Cemetery

Henry George Hargrave 16-11-1969 2-1-1970 Ashes Columbarium, Wall Unit J, Position 39

Catherine Iris Hargrave 2-11-1965 16-12-1965 Ashes Columbarium, Wall Unit J, Position 39

Jamjar

[Westy11]

Hello Jamjar & JM,

I have been that same route before and feel like 'I'm getting whiplash; wonder why he is using George rather than Thomas???

I should be able to obtain his death certificate which may help although the mother is different to the mother he stated previously.  In addition he married for the second time in 1929 which is the same year his divorce was absolute.  Maybe there was a cross over which may account for the different name although his family were extremely adept with using different names.

i have purchased the birth certificate for the 1883 birth of Henry George and that child definitely dies as an infant. 

Westy

[Dundee]

wonder why he is using George rather than Thomas???

No, you need to be wondering why he was using Thomas instead of George which was his correct middle name.

There is a Henry G: 8594/1899 HARGRAVE HENRY G parents CHARLES and MATILDA F WOONONA

Jamjar

Date of birth for this child was 26 Dec 1898.

I see he slipped up when signing his name on the stat dec. in his service record.  I would say that it was just something as simple as finding out his correct middle name later in life.

Debra 

[Westy11]

Hi Debra,

Where did you locate his date of birth please?

edit Also his baptism record for the date of birth you note has him as Henry Thomas.  His AIF record has him as Henry Thomas. He married Agnes MARTIN as Henry Thomas.

Westy

[cupoflife]

Death notice for Henry George Hargrave SMH (left hand page in this link) https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC&dat=19691119&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
HARGRAVE, Henry George- November 16, 1969, at hospital, of 114 Acacia Road Kirrawee, loved husband of the late Catherine Hargrave, loved father of Alwyn and Kevin, fond father-in-law and dear grandfather of their families, aged 70 years. At rest
Funeral notice (same page) Eastern Suburbs Crematorium

http://ryersonindex.org/search.php
HARGRAVE, Alwyn Charles; Death 20NOV1998; age 66; late of Kirrawee; SMH 23NOV1998   
HARGRAVE, Kevin George; Death 25APR2014; age 83; Canberra Times 30APR2014   

Kevin George HARGRAVE Born in Australia on 19 June 1930. Passed away on 25 April 2014. Aged 83 years
http://tributes.canberratimes.com.au/obituaries/canberratimes-au/obituary-search.aspx?daterange=99999&firstname=Kevin&lastname=Hargrave&countryid=11&stateid=203&affiliateid=3096

[Westy11]

thanks so much cupoflife.

Westy

[Dundee]

You can search with date of birth in the online indexes.

https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search/births

The marriage, as recorded on NSWBDM:

5252/1879 HARGRAVES Charles to PTRYLOR Matilda F WOLLONGONG

Jamjar

Just as a matter of interest, Matilda's surname was recorded quite clearly as TRYLOR when she married, and on this same church register entry her father's surname was corrected from TAYLOR to TRYLOR.  None of her family could sign their names so it was all written by the clergy.  Possibly a variation of the more common TRELOAR.

What I am saying is that at some later stage he may have acquired a copy of his birth cert and started using the name recorded on that.

Debra 

[Jamjar]

At Woronora:

Henry Lawson Gardens - General - General Bushrock 25 Garden Q - 0004 & 0004A

Alwyn Charles Hargrave 20–11-1998 3-3-1999 Ashes

Jean Batten Hargrave 15-4-2015 17-8-2015 Ashes

Jamjar