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Re: Will of Alexander Aylmer 1549
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 13 September 18 21:39 BST (UK) »
Not sure if this is relevant but "INTWOOD (All Saints), a parish, in the union of Henstead, hundred of Humbleyard, E. division of Norfolk, 3 miles (S. W.) from Norwich.

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Re: Will of Alexander Aylmer 1549
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 13 September 18 22:24 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much, Goldie and HD!!! :) :D :) What would I have done without you? :) :) :) I continue to be absolutely stunned by the work that you do :)

Stratton will be Long Stratton in Norfolk on the A140 just up the road from Tivetshall St Margaret. I believe Tivetshall St Margaret was mentioned in the previous Will you were researching.
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Thank you so much!!! That is very interesting indeed. Tivetshall St Margaret seems to be pivotal here. Further strengthening the idea that this is the same family, or rather, the same branch of this family. Very, very interesting indeed.

Not sure if this is relevant but "INTWOOD (All Saints), a parish, in the union of Henstead, hundred of Humbleyard, E. division of Norfolk, 3 miles (S. W.) from Norwich.

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That is very relevant. This is actually a case where geography is very relevant indeed :) :) :)

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Re: Will of Alexander Aylmer 1549
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 13 September 18 23:09 BST (UK) »
Again, not sure if or how relevant but:

archive.org: Calendar of Pre-reformation Wills Testaments Probates Admininistrations  Bury St Edmunds

P16 No.150  Johannes Aylemere of Bury  capellanus  12 Sept 1418
P74 No.207  p William  Aylmer of Sylverle  23 Dec 1458
P98 No.449  John Aylmer of Thelnetham  22 Feb 1469  20 Mar 1469

I think Sylverle is in Cambridgeshire but not sure. Also Thelnetham is about 4 km north of the A143 Diss Road and 9 km west of Scole where the A140 intersects with the A143.

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Re: Will of Alexander Aylmer 1549
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 13 September 18 23:11 BST (UK) »
Also, p41 No.182 Nicholas Aylemer of Bury  12 Nov 1473  6 Jan 1473
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Re: Will of Alexander Aylmer 1549
« Reply #13 on: Friday 14 September 18 05:02 BST (UK) »
the lawe for her joynter And after hir decease
then I woll yt shall remayn unto will(ia)m my son(n)e
and heyre accordinge to my Uncle Thomas
Aylemers wyll. Also I give to will(ia)m my
sonne and heyre my mansion howse at Ca-
tington with all the Landes woodes medowes pasturs
with thappurtun(an)ces that was my fathers Robt

Aylemers To have and to houlde to him and to
his heyres of his bodye Lawfullye begotton
for ever And yf it channceth him to dye with
owte lawfull yssewe  of his bodye  begotton
than I woll yt shall remayn to Frannces my
dawghter and to hir heyres of hir bodye law-
fullye begotton And for lacke of suche yssewe
of hir bodye lawfullye begoton Then I woll


Some nice relationships given here Willow.
Love 'yssewe' = issue!  :)
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Will of Alexander Aylmer 1549
« Reply #14 on: Friday 14 September 18 22:03 BST (UK) »
the lawe for her joynter And after hir decease
then I woll yt shall remayn unto will(ia)m my son(n)e
and heyre accordinge to my Uncle Thomas
Aylemers wyll. Also I give to will(ia)m my
sonne and heyre my mansion howse at Ca-
tington with all the Landes woodes medowes pasturs
with thappurtun(an)ces that was my fathers Robt

Aylemers To have and to houlde to him and to
his heyres of his bodye Lawfullye begotton
for ever And yf it channceth him to dye with
owte lawfull yssewe  of his bodye  begotton
than I woll yt shall remayn to Frannces my
dawghter and to hir heyres of hir bodye law-
fullye begotton And for lacke of suche yssewe
of hir bodye lawfullye begoton Then I woll


Some nice relationships given here Willow.
Love 'yssewe' = issue! :)

!!!!!!!

My thoughts exactly!!! :) :D :) This is bingo and jackpot at the same time!!! How amazing! :) :) :)

It would appear that we were right about Frances Aylmer the Younger. Yes!!! I love it when that happens :) :D :)

I love 'yssewe' = issue! I think we have finally found something to rival 'fysyssion' ;D

This Thomas was in all likehood some relation of Sir Laurence, who had a father, brother and perhaps a son by that name!

Alexander Aylmer (d.1549), his wife Anne, his son William and his daughter Frances, his father Robert and his uncle Thomas (both deceased). Not bad! *whistles* :)

And we still have more will!

This is how it's done, other people who wrote wills in the 1400's-1500's, lololol :)

This is spectacular work, Goldie, thank you so much! :) :D :) I appreciate it so much! Breakthroughs/confirmations like these are always so fun! :) :) :)

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Re: Will of Alexander Aylmer 1549
« Reply #15 on: Friday 14 September 18 22:06 BST (UK) »
Also, p41 No.182 Nicholas Aylemer of Bury  12 Nov 1473  6 Jan 1473
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Oh, this is a wonderful find!!! :) :D :) Thank you so much!

This must be the Nicholas Aylmer who married Cecily Hoo:
https://archive.org/stream/visitacionievisi32ryew#page/158/search/Aylmer

Castelyn's Manor
In 1364, Sir Thomas de St Omer of Brundale had it, and Alice, daughter of Petronel his wife, after married to Sir Will. de Hoo, Knt. and Eliz. their daughter then 12 years old, and after married to Tho. de Warine, were coheirs, and in the King's custody; and in 1372, Warine and his wife released all his right to Sir Thomas and his wife; see p. 76. In 1402, he released all his right in this manor calle Castelyn's
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/History_of_Norfolk/Volume_5

Charter of Sir William and Alice de Hoo for Sir Roger de Pedewardyne, 1366
http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/families/hoo.shtml

The great-great-grandparents of Cecily Hoo.

Thomas Hoo, 1st Baron Hoo and Hastings KG (c. 13961455) was a Knight of the Garter and English courtier
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Hoo,_Baron_Hoo_and_Hastings

The great-uncle of Cecily Hoo.

He was also the great-great-grandfather of Anne Boleyn and the great-grandfather of the Mary Coplay mentioned in Thomas Grey, 2nd Marquis of Dorset's will. Anne Boleyn was also mentioned in the will of Thomas Grey, 2nd Marquis of Dorset, but she has other claims to fame :)

Reference: C 241/156/65
Description: Debtor: Thomas de Hoo, knight [of Surrey, and held fees in Wartling and Socknersh in Foxearle Hundred, Sussex], and William de Hoo, his son, of Sussex. Creditor: William Gunthorpe, clerk. Amount: 300. Before whom: William de Walworth, Mayor of the Staple of Westminster.
When taken: 14/02/1373. First term: 24/06/1373. Last term: 24/06/1373. Writ to: Sheriff of Norfolk, Suffolk, Beds., Sussex, and Surrey. Sent by: William de Walworth, Mayor of the Staple of Westminster. Endorsement: Vicecomitibus Norff' Suff' Bed' Sussex, & Surr'. Coram Rege in Cancellaria Sua In Octabis sancti Iohannis Baptiste. Statut'.
Date: 1374 May 13
Held by: The National Archives, Kew
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9687842

The great-grandfather and grandfather of Cecily Hoo.

Reference: C 4/80/120
Description: Certificate of commissioners and interrogatory for Robert Aylmer on the alleged forgery of the will of William at Hoo
Date: 1450 Jan 1 - 1550 Dec 31
Held by: The National Archives, Kew
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9131665

Thank you so much again. This is really an invaluable find! :) :) :)

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Re: Will of Alexander Aylmer 1549
« Reply #16 on: Friday 14 September 18 22:27 BST (UK) »
The postings under the name francoso are not from me but are the work of someone interested in the families of Suffolk, Norfolk and Essex but who is a retiring sort of person. I am just the Postman.
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Re: Will of Alexander Aylmer 1549
« Reply #17 on: Friday 14 September 18 22:28 BST (UK) »
Again, not sure if or how relevant but:

archive.org: Calendar of Pre-reformation Wills Testaments Probates Admininistrations  Bury St Edmunds

P16 No.150  Johannes Aylemere of Bury  capellanus  12 Sept 1418
P74 No.207  p William  Aylmer of Sylverle  23 Dec 1458
P98 No.449  John Aylmer of Thelnetham  22 Feb 1469  20 Mar 1469

I think Sylverle is in Cambridgeshire but not sure. Also Thelnetham is about 4 km north of the A143 Diss Road and 9 km west of Scole where the A140 intersects with the A143.

reagrds
francoso

Aylmers in Bury St. Edmunds are definitely of great interest! These are definitely our Aylmers, or a branch of them  :)

Some of our Aylmers were definitely in Suffolk. Referrals to Tannington (spelt variously as Tanington, Tanyngton, Stanyngton) keeps cropping up.

Tannington in Suffolk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tannington

Bury St. Edmunds in Suffolk
https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bury_St._Edmunds

Thelnetham in Suffolk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thelnetham

I think you are right about Sylverle :)

From Wikipedia - Ashley, Cambridgeshire
The modern village consists of the two ancient parishes of Ashley and Silverley.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley,_Cambridgeshire