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Offline M S Harmer

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Moving link
« on: Thursday 13 September 18 05:28 BST (UK) »
How do I move my irish link (search) to the U.K. board as it has been sujested ?
Ward, Kempson, Donovan, Kiesler, Sutherland, Anesbury, Haines, Crowle, Smith, Benfold, Binstead, Bairstow, Tullock, Wallace, Wood, Oakland, Parker, Payne, Stokes, Botten, Stacy, Brooks, Harmer

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Re: Moving link
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 13 September 18 05:46 BST (UK) »
Hi there click on the report to moderator link  and  ask them to move our post to UK board  :)

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Re: Moving link
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 13 September 18 06:07 BST (UK) »
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=799627.0  :)

But umm...  I was suggesting that a summary of the English aspects could be placed on the general England board (add in a new thread), with reference back to the live link I have included in this post.

You see, Michael DONOVAN is the person named as father of John DONOVAN who died in South Australia in 1910.  In the Obituary for that John Donovan, there's mention he was an Englishman.

Here's the obit : https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/95241468   
includes the following : 

Mr.Donovan was an Englishman by birth, had followed the sea as a vocation for some time, and a little over 20 years ago came to Port Pirie, where, except for a short while now and again, he continued to work on the wharfs, first as a labourer and then as foreman stevedore. Of late years he had been largely employed by the Spencer Gulf Stevedoring Company. Mr. Donovan was at the time of his death, comparatively speaking, but a young man, being  only 38 years of age, and he has left a widow and young family of three, for whom much sympathy is felt.

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Re: Moving link
« Reply #3 on: Friday 14 September 18 12:32 BST (UK) »
Just make a post on England Board and post the link which is

       http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=799627.0

in your England post!

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Re: Michael Donovan Marriage Info
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 18 September 18 05:23 BST (UK) »
Possibilities have come to mind ;
Could the reporter have  it wrong when describing John Donovan as English born ?
Could John's parents have originally been from Ireland and moved to the UK ?
John's parents Irish but he himself born England.
Was employed by the company that owned the SS Bradford City but different ship, retraction made on behalf of company / ship when SS Bradford City was in port.
Last thought a bit of a stretch.

All John Donovan's on deserters lists seem to be from Ire.
Ward, Kempson, Donovan, Kiesler, Sutherland, Anesbury, Haines, Crowle, Smith, Benfold, Binstead, Bairstow, Tullock, Wallace, Wood, Oakland, Parker, Payne, Stokes, Botten, Stacy, Brooks, Harmer

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Re: Moving link
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 18 September 18 05:33 BST (UK) »
Re your thoughts on desertion...
Possibilities have come to mind ;
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Was employed by the company that owned the SS Bradford City but different ship, retraction made on behalf of company / ship when SS Bradford City was in port.
Last thought a bit of a stretch.
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The John Donovan whose desertion you quoted was aged 23 when he deserted, at Port Pirie in 1911.  Your John Donovan was already deceased. 

I have quoted the information available directly from the South Australian Government Gazette.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=799627.msg6578656#msg6578656 

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=800161.msg6577935#msg6577935



South Australia Police Gazette June 28, 1911, page 164

DESERTERS FROM MERCHANT VESSELS
From the  ss ‘BRADFORD CITY’ at PORT PIRIE on June 23rd 1911

Warrants issued for the following :-
John DONOVAN, A.B. 23 years of age, large fair moustache, a native of Ireland, dress not described.
A reward for £1 will be paid for the arrest of each of the above-named.  Warrants filed at Port Pirie. (C1449).

......

and then there's this notice in the South Australian Police Gazette :Page 173,   July 5, 1911
Vide Police Gazette 1911, page 164.   Re P Sheehan, John Donovan, S Napper and William Evans, deserters from the ss Bradford City at Port Pirie on June 23rd, 1911,  The warrants  for arrest of the above named have been withdrawn, the ship having sailed.  C 1449.



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Re: Moving link
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 18 September 18 05:42 BST (UK) »
I have used the R2M button and asked for a GM to help Martin start a thread on the general England Board.

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Re: Moving link
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 18 September 18 11:42 BST (UK) »
Hello MS Harmer,

I moved your topic to our England board as I thought that was your wish. If this is not correct can you please let me know.

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Re: Moving link
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 20 September 18 00:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Sarah,

 :)

The only reason I suggested that Martin start a new thread on the England General board was so that the regulars there would not need to read through several pages of posts about the search for Michael DONOVAN, as father of John DONOVAN on that thread that you so kindly moved across. 

I am sure that now that the thread is on the England General board that the experts there will recognise that the current focus would be on John DONOVAN, noted in his 1910 obituary as an Englishman, born circa 1872 (too late for the 1871 UK census) and who was in South Australia by 1891, so he may be findable on the 1881 UK census ...

  :D  Anyways, I am sure the English experts will be along shortly now the thread is across on that board, and they will help Martin with his quest once he has confirmed your question.

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