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Re: Alfred John Drinkwater (b1874, Kings X) Welsh miner or Brixton prisoner?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 14 September 18 18:00 BST (UK) »
The Alfred and Mary Ann /Marianne family are the ones baptising their offspring at St George the Martyr, Queen Square which is a couple of hundred yards north of 79 Theobalds Road!

My head hurts and I'm off to the pub.

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Thomas, Davies, Jones, Walters, Daniel in Carmarthenshire and Ceredigion. That should narrow it down a bit!
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Re: Alfred John Drinkwater (b1874, Kings X) Welsh miner or Brixton prisoner?
« Reply #10 on: Friday 14 September 18 20:02 BST (UK) »
no, it's Alfred John & Elizabeth No baptisms showing for Alfred & Mary Anne.

St George Martyr Camden baptisms to Alfred John, watchmaker, and Elizabeth
Eliza Caroline born 29 Oct 1870 bap 2 Dec 1870 4 John Street
William Henry born 4 March 1875 bap 3 April 1876 79 Theobalds Road
Heen Louisa born 16 Nov 1871 bp 13 Feb 1877 79 Theobalds Road
Alfred John born 18 Feb 1874 bp 13 Feb 1877
Florence born 10 March bp 11 April 1880 110 Theobalds Road

death reg for Alfred John Drinkwater senior aged 34 june qtr 1882 St Olave vol 1d pg 205
Elizabeth Drinkwater married Charles Skipp Osborne june qtr 1883 Islington vol 1b pg 458
Marriage was 31 May 1883 parish church of Islington, she was a widow, he was a widower, her father John Lister, stone mason, same as 1869 entry and one of the witnesses is Eliza Lister. The 1891 Osborne household RG12/200 folio 67 pg 56 has Alfred John Drinkwater stepson 17 commercial clerk born Bloomsbury.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Alfred John Drinkwater (b1874, Kings X) Welsh miner or Brixton prisoner?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 23 September 18 08:31 BST (UK) »
Osprey, many thanks for all your invaluable assistance. I seemed to have conjured up the "John" in my Alfred's name since a more careful scrutiny shows there is no documentary proof of a middle name.

It would be fascinating to know how he ended up as a farm servant at the age of 18 already speaking English and Welsh but I will await the endeavours of another to uncover this part of his story.

Hwyl fawr,
Malcolm
Thomas, Davies, Jones, Walters, Daniel in Carmarthenshire and Ceredigion. That should narrow it down a bit!
Vincent: Fressingfield, Suffolk, Stockton & Sunderland.
Murtha/Murtaugh: Dundalk & Sunderland
Ingram: Cairnie by Huntly, Scotland then Abergavenny, Monmouthshire.
Bardouleau: London - in memory of my stepmother Annie Rose née Bardouleau who put up with a lot from me.
gedmatch.com A006809
Kit uploaded to familytreedna.com B171041
Y-DNA R-M269 & mtDNA U5b1f

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Re: Alfred John Drinkwater (b1874, Kings X) Welsh miner or Brixton prisoner?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 23 September 18 19:56 BST (UK) »
perhaps he went to live with relatives in Gloucestershire and then decided to go further west...

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb