Can't find the barker family.

[aggiebagwash]

I'm trying to find any details of the Barker family on the 1871 and 1881 censuses. I've searched for the last ten days and can only find BMD's for the family in the north of England.

Annie born 1882 and Catherine Barker born in 1883 in Manchester first appear on the 1891 census living with their brother Thomas and his family in St Michael's Parish. Thomas says he's 24 and born in Sheffield. I found Catherine on the 1901 census living with her older sister Elizabeth Hawksworth and her family in Ancoats. Elizabeth was born in Bradford, Yorkshire in 1874.

The problem is I can't find Thomas and Elizabeth on earlier censuses. I suspect that their parents were William Barker and Ann Burton. According to the GRO records all the children have the same MMN Burton. I then found a marriage for a William Barker to Ann Burton in the 4th quarter 1868 in Bradford, Yorks almost two years after Thomas was baptised.

Would some kind person please see if they can find them on the censuses for me? 

[BumbleB]

Stupid question, but do you have any of the children's birth certificates to verify your theory that they are the children of William and Ann?

[rosie99]

For anyone looking the reference for 1891 is RG12 /3247 f75 p9

Thomas   Barker   24   occ    Grinder   bn Sheffield
Margaret   Barker   Wife   22   born Ireland   
Ann   Barker Dtr   2   born Manchester, Lancashire
Catherine   Barker Sister 8 bn Manchester
Ann   Barker Sister   9   bn Manchester, Lancashire

[heywood]

Marriage Cathedral Mcr
28th Nov 1887

Thomas Barker 19yrs Hawker 40 Hanover Street   father William Barker deceased Hawker
 Margaret Ann Connolly 18 yrs  21 Bk Hanover Street Father William Connolly Watchman
witnesses  Archible Carter and Mary Ann Greenhalgh

[BumbleB]

So, Thomas Barker married Margaret Ann Connolly at The Cathedral, Manchester on 28 November 1887.  Thomas and his father William (deceased) have the occupation of Hawker.  Margaret's father is William, a Watchman.  Thomas is 19 and Margaret is 18.

[aggiebagwash]

Thanks everyone for replying so quickly.

I haven't got the BC's but I found Thomas' Baptism on familysearch and that is what gave me an idea about his parents names. I don't want to commit myself to buying the certs until I know a lot more details.

[BumbleB]

Private Baptism at St James, Collyhurst

Catherine Barker, daughter of William (Labourer) and Ann of 38 Lands Street.  Born 22 October, baptised 4 November 1883.

[aggiebagwash]

Wow thank you so much that's incredible.

[heywood]

Thomas Hawksworth and Elizabeth Barker marriage St Michael’s 1892 February 16th
Father William Barker deceased , Grinder