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Is it KETTELL or possibly FETTELL???
« on: Tuesday 18 September 18 17:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Everyone - I'm pulling my hair out here.  I have been looking for a long time now for the marriage between my Grt Grt Grt Grandparents with no joy.  Perhaps I have been using permeations of the wrong maiden surname, but I would have thought something vaguely relevant would have popped up by now, especially as I have searched using the male surname as well as the female surname. 

I have attached a section from a birth cert - I believe it is OK to post just a section of a certificate - let me know if not and I will remove immediately - which shows the birth of my Grt Grt Grandfather Robert George Cable born in the Reg District of St Pancras, Sub District of Camden in the County of Middlesex.  Father is Robert Thomas Cable and mother listed as Mary Maria KETTELL ... or could it be FETTELL ... or even something else?

Robert George Cable was born in 1854 but had older siblings, definitely one born in 1845 and possibly one born in 1840, so I have been searching for a marriage from about 1835 onwards.  I have searched all the usual sites but no marriage is coming to light - well nothing that looks possible.  Unless I am having a very senior moment ...

Does anyone have any ideas re the maiden surname and where I can search next?  I live abroad so cannot visit any archives in person.

Many thanks, almost bald  :o, Nina

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Re: Is it KETTELL or possibly FETTELL???
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 18 September 18 17:24 BST (UK) »
Hmm...not sure but my try would be Kethell ?

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Re: Is it KETTELL or possibly FETTELL???
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 18 September 18 17:26 BST (UK) »
It does look like Kettell.

Could you get the birth cert of an older sibling. 

Also, could this be a second marriage for her so that the surname of her first marriage would show up on her subsequent marriage to Robert Cable but her maiden name would be on the birth certs.   This happens quite often.

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Re: Is it KETTELL or possibly FETTELL???
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 18 September 18 17:30 BST (UK) »
Here is his birth index from the GRO site.

CABLE, ROBERT  GEORGE  mmn   KETTELL     
GRO Reference: 1854  S Quarter in SAINT PANCRAS  Volume 01B  Page 111

Who are the older siblings?
 
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Re: Is it KETTELL or possibly FETTELL???
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 18 September 18 17:37 BST (UK) »
Martha Frances Cable, mmn KETTELL, Sep qtr 1851 St Pancras.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Is it KETTELL or possibly FETTELL???
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 18 September 18 17:38 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone for your input!

Carol8353 - Thanks for that - older siblings are Martha Frances Cable 1851-1940, Francis Samuel 1848-?, Robert Thomas 1845-?, and possibly a Maria Cable in 1840-?.

Gadget - I was hoping to avoid purchasing more certs just yet - we all know how costly this family tree business can be - but if it comes to the crunch I will have to ...

Rosinish - thanks, I will see what comes of that permeation!

Avm228 - thanks for your reply!

Nina


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Re: Is it KETTELL or possibly FETTELL???
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 18 September 18 17:41 BST (UK) »
Robert Samuel Cable, mmn KITTETT, Sep qtr 1845 St Pancras.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Is it KETTELL or possibly FETTELL???
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 18 September 18 17:42 BST (UK) »
So here's Maria's birth.

CABLE, MARIA       mmn KITTELL     
GRO Reference: 1840  S Quarter in THE ROMFORD UNION  Volume 12  Page 197
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Re: Is it KETTELL or possibly FETTELL???
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 18 September 18 17:45 BST (UK) »
They appear on the 1841 census as Coble in Chelmsford.

Robert Coble   40 labourer not born in county of Essex.
Mary Cable   23
Maria Cable   1

And in 1851 as Cabel,both parents born in Norfolk.
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