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Re: Mary Elizabeth LLEWELLIN
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 19 September 18 09:00 BST (UK) »
Who are the witnesses at her marriage in 1893?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Mary Elizabeth LLEWELLIN
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 19 September 18 09:19 BST (UK) »
witnesses Robert Curtis & Alice Gilbert.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Mary Elizabeth LLEWELLIN
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 19 September 18 23:53 BST (UK) »
Some interesting speculation. I rather like the Lambeth-Edmonton thread, especially as I have now found the family in 1901 living at 150 St Mary's Road, Edmonton. William seems to have a new and younger wife, named Annie (30)!

William seems confused as to where he was born - Birmingham or Wales? Mary Elizabeth seems to be similarly confused.

It was interesting that the family were living in Coles Avenue in 1891, as William Prior - the future husband of Alice Gilbert, the younger sister of James Gilbert and a witness at his marriage to Mary Elizabeth - was also living with his parents at Coles avenue in 1891.

I am not so happy with the Morgan/Bridgend/Newport connection, as the Mary Elizabeth born in Q1 1871 is a little too old. Moreover, her father is wrong and the family appear to be too wealthy.

Having said all this I still can't find either a suitable marriage for William or birth for Mary Elizabeth. So please keep trying to work your magic. Also there is still the problem of what happens to her after 1911.

PS William R LLEWELLIN appears to die in 1932 aged 84 (Q1 1932 Edmonton 3a 902)

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Re: Mary Elizabeth LLEWELLIN
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 20 September 18 02:26 BST (UK) »
Where did you find the 1901?  I think William has been more constant with his birth place being Birmingham and I think it's him in the 1911. Elizabeth or Mary or Sarah E, seems to be more likely to have come from Luton, I think Wales maybe a red herring. Can't find any marriages for any wives including Annie  ???


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Re: Mary Elizabeth LLEWELLIN
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 20 September 18 03:48 BST (UK) »
Greaves - I also wondered whether Mary E was confused re her  birthplace or indeed how she related to the family as there is no sign of a birth that I can see!!   Maybe her husband counted her as Welsh due to her surname  :-\   

Solidrock - This is the 1901 census  with new wife??  Annie and William's middle initial R. The middle intial R fits in quite nicely with a William Robert Llewellin  born 1847 Aston Warwickshire

William R Llewillin 54      Birmingham
Annie Llewillin wife 30
Robert Llewillin    16
Lillie K Llewellin    13
James Llewellin    11
Ada Llewellin    9
Arthur Llewellin    2 Edmonton

Added -the last child Arthur is listed on the birth index with mothers maiden name Winfield

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Re: Mary Elizabeth LLEWELLIN
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 20 September 18 04:37 BST (UK) »
Marriage

William Robert Llewellyn
Marriage Banns Date:    14 Mar 1897    All Saints, Edmonton, Enfield, England
Spouse:    Annie Rolfe
Both listed as Widowed

On FreeBMD William Robert Llewellin Mar Qtr 1897  Edmonton    3a   321

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Re: Mary Elizabeth LLEWELLIN
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 20 September 18 06:02 BST (UK) »
This maybe the elusive Sarah...

LLEWELLIN, SARAH  ELIZABETH      40      
GRO Reference: 1895  D Quarter in EDMONTON  Volume 03A  Page 215

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Re: Mary Elizabeth LLEWELLIN
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 20 September 18 06:07 BST (UK) »
This maybe the elusive Sarah...

LLEWELLIN, SARAH  ELIZABETH      40      
GRO Reference: 1895  D Quarter in EDMONTON  Volume 03A  Page 215

That looks good  :)

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Re: Mary Elizabeth LLEWELLIN
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 20 September 18 06:58 BST (UK) »
There are several tree's on Ancestry with Sarah Elizabeth and Elizabeth Sarah Hine born 1853 Luton. married to William Robert Llewellyn. There maybe some clues there but I have'nt got a sub.