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Re: China manufacturer in Scotland circa 1800
« Reply #18 on: Friday 21 September 18 16:11 BST (UK) »
 
Quote from: kirstyc on Wednesday 19 September 18 15:31 BST (UK)
I think she was born in Haddington in the 1780s. This could be wrong, if so it's still likely to be the lowlands region. Her son was born in Alloa, Clacks, and lived in Edinburgh and Fife

Hi Kirsty,
Have you looked for Catherine in 1851 which should indicate where she was born?
Annie


Catherine is in Kirkgate, Cupar in the 1851 census. Widowed, age 67, she is described as a house proprietrix She was born in East Linton.
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Re: China manufacturer in Scotland circa 1800
« Reply #19 on: Friday 21 September 18 16:40 BST (UK) »
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Porcelain is made from crushed flint .... China is made from crushed bone and feldspar found growing in Scotland.
Are you absolutely certain of that?

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porcelain and https://www.britannica.com/art/porcelain

I'm no expert Forfarian, I tried to be helpful to the poster by way of explanation of local sources.

I copied and pasted but obviously from a different website - and from another separate website here's a third explanation:- 

"The primary components of porcelain are clays, feldspar or flint, and silica, all characterized by small particle size. To create different types of porcelain, ." 

Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy: MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell: Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar; Ross: Urray:Mackenzie:  Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell: Perthshire: Brown Ferguson: Wales: McCarthy, Thomas: England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Well(es). Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells;Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke

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Re: China manufacturer in Scotland circa 1800
« Reply #20 on: Friday 21 September 18 21:04 BST (UK) »
There are the remains of North Woodside flint mill on the river Kelvin, Glasgow, which supplied the potteries.

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Re: China manufacturer in Scotland circa 1800
« Reply #21 on: Friday 21 September 18 21:49 BST (UK) »
I think we risk going off at a tangent here. The original poster is looking for an ancestor.
James Anderson couldn't have been involved at the Alloa pottery for very long, the late Harry Kelly doesn't mention him at all in his book (Scottish Ceramics by Henry E. Kelly) and he was always quite thorough in his research. This is what he has to say about Alloa.

"The pottery was founded c1783 in Kirkgate, Alloa, by James Shaw - know as Sheepy Shaw - to make common redware. It rapidly passed through the hands of a number of owners: James Turnbull (until 1805), James Heath (1812 - 16), William Hamilton and William Gardner (c1820 - 1856)".

So, no mention of James Anderson but, he was definitely there in 1804, perhaps he was a partner in the business for a short time? Or even a foreman potter? If the National Records of Scotland are to be believed, his father lived in Dunbar, surely that's the logical place to be looking?

Oh, and Skoosh, I don't want you to even ask how "Sheepy" Shaw acquired his nickname!  :o
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.


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Re: China manufacturer in Scotland circa 1800
« Reply #22 on: Friday 21 September 18 22:14 BST (UK) »
@ Lodger, ye s--- wan sheep!  ;D

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Re: China manufacturer in Scotland circa 1800
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 22 September 18 07:59 BST (UK) »
@ Lodger, ye s--- wan sheep!  ;D

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I knew that's what was going through your mind, it never crossed mine.  ;D ;D ;D
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: China manufacturer in Scotland circa 1800
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 22 September 18 10:15 BST (UK) »
No baaaad!

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Re: China manufacturer in Scotland circa 1800
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 22 September 18 15:41 BST (UK) »
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: China manufacturer in Scotland circa 1800
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 22 September 18 17:32 BST (UK) »

Hi Kirsty,

Have you looked for Catherine in 1851 which should indicate where she was born?

Annie
I have her living on her own in Cupar, just around the corner from her son at the Manse. Says widowed, born in Haddington. I can't find her in 1841.
Bell, Church, Little, Calvert - Canonbie, Langholm - Dumfries-shire; Roxburgh-shire
MacDonald - glencoe
Cochrane, Anderson - Haddingtonshire, Fife, Clacks
Brodie - East Lothian
McDonald, Hamilton, Finlay, Morn - Paisley
Smart, Robertson - Kirkcaldy & Dysar, Fife; Dundee
Chesters, Allen, Pennington - Cheshire & North Wales
Christer - Cumberland, Northumberland, Cumbria, N Lincs
Altorfer, Haller, Feller - Switzerland