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Re: Will of Thomas Aylmer 1500
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 22 September 18 15:58 BST (UK) »
Snippet #6:

...It(e)m to John Alman the yong(er) vj s viijd It(e)m to Cristofer

Alman his Brodyr vjs viijd It(e)m to margaret Alman

Syster to the said John and Cristofyr vjs It(e)m to Joone

Alman vjs viijd It(e)m to Roberd Alman of Norwich

Goldsmyth xs And to Iche of his children xijd It(e)m to

the wyfe of Richard p(ar)trych of Norwich Grocer xiij s

iiijd It(e)m to James moor of london vj s viijd [It(em)?] his

Brother Robert vj s viijd to Thom(a)s moor of Skottowe

vjs viijd to will(ia)m moor vjs viijd It(e)m I gyf to ev(er)y por

man Bedred and Blynd man and woman in Norwich...



CORRECTION:

I now think Thom(a)s moor is of Skottowe.  Amended above.

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Re: Will of Thomas Aylmer 1500
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 23 September 18 01:24 BST (UK) »
Re. snippet 5. As possibilities:

1  Carhow = Carrow Priory is place of nunnery  (Carrow where the Canaries sing?), and Carrow Road is where the Canaries (Norwich City FC) play their home matches.

2  Lestoft = Lowestoft.  I have seen plenty of spelling variations.  And my friend calls is Lowstof.

3  jer..th.. ***  perhaps this is Yarmouth.  There are plenty of Almans in both Lowestoft and Yarmouth (plus other places) around 1500.

Just thoughts.
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Re: Will of Thomas Aylmer 1500
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 23 September 18 01:30 BST (UK) »
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/norf/vol2/pp351-354
Houses of Benedictine nuns: The priory of Carrow.
Just for info/background:
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"There was also given to the anchoress of Carrow 40d.
¶This anchoress was a woman of great celebrity, whose religious 'revelations' have been several times published. Though never canonized, she was usually known as Saint Juliana of Norwich. She was termed indifferently the anchoress of Carrow and the anchoress of St. Julian, because her ankerhold was in the churchyard of St. Julian-, Norwich, a church appropriated to the priory. Very possibly she had been a nun of Carrow in her youth."
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Re: Will of Thomas Aylmer 1500
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 23 September 18 06:00 BST (UK) »
Re. snippet 5. As possibilities:

1  Carhow = Carrow Priory is place of nunnery  (Carrow where the Canaries sing?), and Carrow Road is where the Canaries (Norwich City FC) play their home matches.

2  Lestoft = Lowestoft.  I have seen plenty of spelling variations.  And my friend calls is Lowstof.

3  jer..th.. ***  perhaps this is Yarmouth.  There are plenty of Almans in both Lowestoft and Yarmouth (plus other places) around 1500.

Just thoughts.
francoso

I'm pretty sure you are right, francoso.

Therefore, I have removed the uncertainty from Jermuthe in the text.

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Re: Will of Thomas Aylmer 1500
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 23 September 18 09:59 BST (UK) »
Re. snippet 5. As possibilities:
1  Carhow = Carrow Priory is place of nunnery

Agreed. In any case, we've already had Carrow in an earlier Aylmer will.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=799398.msg6568616#msg6568616

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Re: Will of Thomas Aylmer 1500
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 23 September 18 11:54 BST (UK) »
I agree with everyone about Carrow.

Thank you so much!!! :) :D :)

Dame Margaret Parker of Leystoft/Lowestoft - This must be the Margaret Parker that John Strype seems to think is the grandmother of Matthew Parker, Queen Elizabeth's first Archbishop of Canterbury :)
https://archive.org/stream/historicalcollec00stryuoft#page/n149

Matthew Parker (6 August 1504 – 17 May 1575) was Archbishop of Canterbury from 1559 until his death in 1575. He was born in Norwich, in St Saviour's parish, as the eldest son of William Parker and Alice Monins. She may have been related by marriage to Thomas Cranmer, Archbishop of Canterbury during the reigns of Henry VIII, Edward VI and - for a short time - Mary I.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Parker

John Strype also speaks of the possibility of John Aylmer, Bishop of London, and Matthew Parker, Archbishop of Canterbury, being kindred in his biography The Life and Acts of Matthew Parker, the First Archbishop of Canterbury in the Reign of Queen Elizabeth.

I really wish we were researching the Alman family, now, lololol :) ;D :)

And I really wish I knew if Margaret Parker was an Aylmer! :) :) :)

Thank you so much again!!! This is really fascinating.

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Re: Will of Thomas Aylmer 1500
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 23 September 18 15:30 BST (UK) »
Snippet #7:

...Jd It(e)m to iche p(re)st being at my derige and at my berying

iiijd and to ev(er)y clerk ijd and ev(er)y pore man woman and

Childe that come to my deryge [ob?] to the su(m)me of v.li

It(e)m I will have ev(er)y yer(e) a masse and a deryge to be

sunge for me and my ffrendes by the space of vj yer(es)

It(e)m I will have a man to goo for me to our blessed

Lady of walsyngh(a)m on pilgrymage Barfoot* and he...



The amount in line 3 has me stumped for the moment.

* Barfoot - easy for him to say.


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Re: Will of Thomas Aylmer 1500
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 23 September 18 16:18 BST (UK) »
deryge [?]

From Dirige – first word of the Office of the Dead (Dirige, Domine, Deus meus ... viam meam – Direct my path ... O Lord my God). Hence the English ‘dirge’.

* Barfoot - easy for him to say.

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Re: Will of Thomas Aylmer 1500
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 23 September 18 16:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks Bookbox, but my problem wasn't with deryge itself but with the amount to be paid to those poor men women and children who attended.

Looks like ob?