Smith's Place, Govan 1868

[Lodger]

I expect what is Main Road on the map later became Govan Road.

[mcmacey]

Thank you for looking at the VRs, Annie, although I don’t recognise any of those names from 1865.  I have looked at census records for them this morning but I can see no obvious links eg birth places, family names to my Neil.

Neil Mcinnes was born in Islay in about 1833 (1841 census). His father was Hector McInnes who married Marion McCaffer at Kilchoman in 1822 but who, according to 1851 Census was born in Rothesay. His mother’s name was Mary Johnson (death cert) but I don’t have his father’s name and nor apparently did his eldest son!

There were Mcinneses in Rothesay at the time but I haven’t been able to link them so I don’t know anything of the earlier generation. Hector, Marion and family were living in Port Glasgow by the mid 1850s - he died there in 1856. (None of the Govan McInneses of 1861/1871 censuses seem to be connected to Bute or Islay).

I said in my earlier post that Neil’s family were still in Greenock but when I double checked, one of his brothers, Peter, was living in Partick by 1865. He too was a ship carpenter.

Neil himself took up residence in Govan with his third wife in the 1880s but there were still ties back to Greenock; even in the 1891 census my great grandfather Neil ( the one born at Smith’s Place) was staying with his cousin in Greenock while his wife and my infant grandfather were in Govan.

Thanks again for your helpful comments

Betty



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[stanmapstone]

I expect what is Main Road on the map later became Govan Road.

As shown on the map in reply #2

Stan

[MonicaL]

Scotlands Places refer to it simply as a dwelling house on the south side of Main Road as discussed https://scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/digital-volumes/ordnance-survey-name-books/lanarkshire-os-name-books-1858-1861/lanarkshire-volume-28/55

Monica

[Rosinish]

Hmm,

I noticed Monica's Scotlandsplaces ref. was dated 1858-61

Oddly enough Smith's Place is on the 1855 VRs but no Main Street 

There appears to be more than 3 houses as they're numbered 1 & 2 with the Proprietor as James Wilkie & a 3rd Mrs Margaret Smith (no no.) as well as several Tenants (No M(a)cInnes or Madden):

SMITH MARGARET MRS Proprietor
HOUSE AND SHOP SMITHS PLACE, GOVAN
VR010700003-

Not sure why I'm posting this (had been noting down as I searched) but may be useful to someone else at a later date 

Annie

[mcmacey]

This has been very interesting - at least I know a bit more about old Govan.  It’s pretty clear from the 1861 and 1871 censuses that Margaret Smith was in the business of taking in lodgers, so I have to conclude that Neil and Margaret must have been lodging at Smith’s Place.

Thanks to everyone who contributed.