Ann Gillam Bancks query on death info.

[jonw65]

So the will is Thomas' will not Nicholas?

Hi
I think I've given you two wills
The first was Nicholas Banks, 1614
and the second one was Thomas Potter, 1681

You can't download them, but you can save them by using print screen, snipping tool, etc, or just taking a photo!
John

[BronwenS]

Thanks John.  I do use snipping tool but not print screen - the real issue is it shows such a small amount at a time.  But I will now get on to the records via the Essex history group.

Good to hear you have sited both wills.  I need to go backwards from Mary (Bancks) Potter to see that I have the right person.

Kind regards Bronwen

[sillgen]

I would be quite interested to know how you got back to Mary Banckes Potter as looking last night at the various links you gave it did all seem very complicated and I was not at all clear on the correct line of progression.

[BronwenS]

I hope this is clearer, it is difficult because once I put the text in here it doesn't hold the bold or colour I have highlighted things in.  The ones I am directly following are in bold in my sheets, but above each female name it gives the name of the husband and her child who is the exact line I am following.

Happy to send privately if you wish me too.  It is certainly much easier to understand it if it is printed out.

Regards Bronwen


Thomas Potter husband of Margaret ?
b.1561
m.1580 Margaret ? Worth, Sussex, Eng.
d.

Margaret ? wife of Thomas Potter, mother of John Potter
b.1560?
m.
d.
Children 1
1581 Feb 15, John Potter

John Potter husband of Mary Bancks
b.1581 Feb 15 c.Feb 15, Worth, Sussex, Eng.
m.1606 Aug 10, Mary Bancks Worth, Sussex, Eng.
d.

Nicholas Bancks husband of Ann Gillam
b.1548c
m.1574 Jan 19, Ann Gillam (a widow), Ardingly, West Sussex, Eng.
d.1614 Lindfield, West Sussex, Eng.
O Tailor

Ann Gillam wife of Nicholas Bancks mother of Mary Bancks
b.
m.1574 Jan 19, Nicholas Bancks, Ardingly, West Sussex, Eng.
m.Joane?  Will names Joane as wife and daughter Elenor who is married   potential marriage SMI 19 sept 1603 Lindfield, Nich Bancks + Jone Pollard?
d.
Children 2
1575 Oct 23 bc Elenor Banks, Ardingly, West Sussex, Eng.
1576 cJune 18 Mary Bancks, Ardingly, West Sussex, Eng.
1578 June 18 Mary Bankes Wivelsfield, Sussex, Eng.

Mary Bancks husband of John Potter mother of Thomas Potter
b.1576 cJune 18 Ardingly, Sussex Eng.  (Wilvesford)
m.1606 Aug 10, John Potter, Worth, Sussex, Eng.
d.1594
Children 6
1608 c.Nov 6 Thomas Potter, Worth, Sussex, Eng.
1611 Aug c.Aug 25 Francis Potter m.1631 Oct 23 William Russell c.
1613 Feb 6 c.Feb 6 -1643 John Potter c.1644 William Potter
1619 Nov 21 c.Nov 21 – 1626 Mar 18 George Potter
1623 Sept 28 Charles Potter
1645 Dec 27 c.Dec 27 Bridget Potter   

Thomas Potter husband of Sarah Comber
b.1608 c.Nov 6
m.1637 May 18 Worth, Sussex, Eng. Sarah Comber
m.1606
d.

Sarah Comber wife of Thomas Potter mother of Roger Potter
b.1610? Worth, Sussex, Eng.
m.1637 May 18 Worth, Sussex, Eng. Thomas Potter
d.
Children 5
1635 Mar 11 John Potter, Worth, Sussex, Eng.
1641 c.Apr 11 – 1643 William Potter, Worth, Sussex, Eng.
1641 c.Apr 11 Thomas Potter, Worth, Sussex, Eng.
1644 May 3 c.May 5 Roger Potter, Worth, Sussex, Eng.
1647 Feb 10 c1649 Feb 10 Henry Potter

[sillgen]

My problem is that some of this cannot be substantiated.  I have already told you that there is no baptism in Ardingly in 1576 for Mary Banckes - nor any spelling variant.  I cannot see a marriage for Thomas Potter in Worth in 1580 to a Margaret either.  Where have you found this information?
There are burials for Potters in Worth which you may find interesting.  John Potter's baptism is Feb 28th in 1583/4.  Not 1581.  There are too many discrepancies here for comfort.

[BronwenS]

Hi

Thanks for that, I have left Mary Banckes in there with that date but know it is something I need to follow up.  Family search had some of those dates which is where I will have found them.  But he has changed the date of her birth back to 1590+ which would make her a child bride but maybe the wrong family.  I suspect Thomas Potter was found in the same source. 

I was looking at the Potters last evening on the Sussex website.

many thanks
Best wishes
Bronwen

[jonw65]

That will of Nicholas Banks of Lindfield was proved 28 May 1614 by daughter Mary.
The Sussex Marriage Index then has a marriage at Lindfield on 13 June 1614
Thomas Bruck + Mary Banks

So that may be said daughter. Not sure whether Bruck is going to be the usual form of the groom's name?
John

[BronwenS]

Great thanks John  - I am just on the Sussex (impressive) website looking at Potters.

Regards Bronwen

[Little Nell]

1575 Oct 23 bc Elenor Banks, Ardingly, West Sussex, Eng.
1576 cJune 18 Mary Bancks, Ardingly, West Sussex, Eng.
1578 June 18 Mary Bankes Wivelsfield, Sussex, Eng.

I think you need to look at all these 'facts' and assess them very carefully.

In the above, there are two baptism dates of 18th June, two years apart but in two different places. Have you checked the original registers or are you relying on secondary sources, like transcriptions or online trees which are relying on transcriptions?

The gap between the baptisms of Elenor and the first Mary looks impossible - less than 40 weeks, especially if both children survived and were born full-term.  I would urge great caution and question absolutely everything.

Nell