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Help with a birth of unknown mother
« on: Friday 28 September 18 14:59 BST (UK) »
I am searching for an Edith/Ada/Edia Grant, possibly illegitimate. I don't know who her mother was and I can not find a birth anywhere that would fit her profile. Born abt 1903 re 1911 census mentioned as grand daughter  - house 25 in Maphoner (Latbirget, Armagh). I have her death date and know that she was brought up by her aunt Lizzie also in census.
I have found 6 Grant children of Patrick Grant and Margaret Hanratty, some are not mentioned on either census. the couple had 8 children and 4 survived according to 1911 census.  Any help would be appreciated.  :)
Mary 1881
Catherine 1884
Ann 1886.
Elizabeth 1889
James 1891
Thomas 1897

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Re: Help with a birth of unknown mother
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 September 18 16:05 BST (UK) »
LINK TO Maphoner WITH 4 GRANT HOuSEHOLDS

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Latbirget/Maphoner/


Have you checked the others to see if there is a child missing from one of them??
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Re: Help with a birth of unknown mother
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 September 18 16:18 BST (UK) »
Doing this search gives 0 results
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Re: Help with a birth of unknown mother
« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 September 18 16:28 BST (UK) »
Civil Reg Birth results for Grant from 1903 to 1904  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ms8/


Checked those at the 6 Districts for Armagh... don't see her!
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Re: Help with a birth of unknown mother
« Reply #5 on: Friday 28 September 18 17:15 BST (UK) »
Here is the 1901 census

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Latberget/Maphoner/1033366/

Elizabeth Hanratty is the head of the household with the others being nephews and nieces (Although some would be in law and other great nephews and nieces)

Patrick Grant married Margaret Hanratty in 1881
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/11000/8021873.pdf

According to the 1911 census, they had 8 children , 4 still living - and only 3 living with them on the census

Have you found all 8 children?
McClean, Kelly, Murray, Higgins, McAnulty (McNulty, Conalty, Kinolty), Morgan, Rafferty, McPolin (All Co Down, Ireland) Bowman, Hooper(Yorkshire)

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Re: Help with a birth of unknown mother
« Reply #6 on: Friday 28 September 18 17:32 BST (UK) »
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Latbirget/Maphoner/303656/

There is a nephew Arthur Grant living with this couple - could this be a brother of Edia?

There is a Mary Grant, aged 21, single living in Waterloo, Lancashire in 1911 from Meighfoner, Armagh
Census: Class: RG14; Piece: 22310
McClean, Kelly, Murray, Higgins, McAnulty (McNulty, Conalty, Kinolty), Morgan, Rafferty, McPolin (All Co Down, Ireland) Bowman, Hooper(Yorkshire)

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Re: Help with a birth of unknown mother
« Reply #7 on: Friday 28 September 18 17:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone, I have only found 6 children. I found a few documents on proni registered in Newry
I think their church parish would have been Forkhill. Yes one child is missing from the 1911 census so perhaps Edith's mother or father is working elsewhere. Any ideas why there would be no birth records on proni for the two other children and the grandchild Edith? Or is it a case of looking harder? They were married in 1881 and lived at same address -Cargin Silverbridge. Thanks


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Re: Help with a birth of unknown mother
« Reply #8 on: Friday 28 September 18 17:53 BST (UK) »
I did a search for the children

Mary - 21 Sept 1881
Catherine - 13 March 1884
Ann - 20 Apr 1886
Elizabeth - 21 September 1889
James - 15 July 1891
Thomas - 22 June 1897

of which we have Lizzie, James and Thomas in the census
McClean, Kelly, Murray, Higgins, McAnulty (McNulty, Conalty, Kinolty), Morgan, Rafferty, McPolin (All Co Down, Ireland) Bowman, Hooper(Yorkshire)