James Deacon in Berkshire conundrum

[rosie99]

From findagrave
Married Sarah Harris on Nov.2,1799, St Mary's East Ilsley
Fifteen children born to this union:

Probably the children of James who married Sarah Harris
James 1800
Isaac 1803
William 1805
Charles 1807
.........
Could be the children of either marriage
Abraham 1809
Jacob 1810
Mary 1812
Joseph 1813 - fathers occ Carpenter & Joiner & Parish Clerk, East Ilsley
Mary Ann 1815 - Fathers occ Carpenter Etc
Cornelius 1817 - Fathers Occ Carpenter
Martha 1819 - Fathers occ Labourer
Richard 1821 - Fathers occ Journeyman Carpenter
Thomas 1824 - Fathers occ Labourer
Henry 1826 - Fathers occ Labourer
Amos 1833 - Fathers occ Labourer

So where is Jesse on that list
Also with parents James & Sarah
William 12 Feb 1815 - fathers occ Labourer
James who was bapt 8 Jun 1817 -fathers occ Labourer
John bapt 9 Aug 1829 - fathers occ Labourer

[innerspark]

There are 2 extra children that I have found with James and Sarah as parents -

Ann b.1821 (the same year as Richard, so must be different parents) - she is on the 1841 census
and Jesse b. 1829

[rosie99]

Possible baptism for the James on census - marriage to Hannah 1849 gives his father as William

James Deacon
Baptism 15 Apr 1787
Eats Ilsley
Parents William & Elizabeth

[rosie99]

There are 2 extra children that I have found with James and Sarah as parents -

Ann b.1821 (the same year as Richard, so must be different parents) - she is on the 1841 census
and Jesse b. 1829

Anns baptism gives fathers occupation as Labourer

[Pheno]

If Sarah Harris was pretty much the same age as James Deacon when they married it is unlikely that Amos is their child as it puts them both aged about 60.  Feasible for James perhaps but hardly likely for Sarah Harris.

It also doesn't make sense that in 1851 James is with his sons Amos & Jesse, but also with his newborn daughter Martha from his new wife Hannah.  But the James on findagrave only has a wife Sarah mentioned and is buried prior to a marriage to Hannah.

And on the 1851 it quite clearly states on the original that both Amos and Jesse are sons of the Head (James Deacon) and that Martha is a daughter so no cross contamination of families conceivably.

Pheno

[rosie99]

Possible burial for Sarah (Harris) Deacon
Sarah Deacon
Age   61 (bn c1776)
Burial 29 Jan 1837
East Ilsley

[innerspark]

Pheno - yes that makes sense. So it is likely that Ann and Henry who appear on the 1841 Census are part of the same family. Although they Ann, Henry, Jesse and Amos are listed in christening records on FindMyPast and family search with the parents - James and Sarah.

I think I am getting a bit clearer -
James 1. b. 1772 m.Sarah Harris 1779 d.1850

James 2. b.1787 m. Sarah Vellewise 1805 or Sarah Stanmore 1809
 d.1874

then children - Ann, Henry, Jesse and Amos are James 2 and Sarah or James 2 and second wife Hannah

[rosie99]

James Deacon &  Sarah (Vellewise) were both of the parish of Wantage on their marriage.  They appear to be baptising children there after their marriage

[rosie99]

James & Sarah (Stanmore)  baptise a daughter Betty at Blewberry in 1809
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JSJN-J8D