John Smith born peterhead 1879

[ryan37]

Trying to gain more info on a man born in Peterhead in 1879

he was in royal scots around 1901 and his number was 7819

saw a record on fold3 of ancestry but I don't have a sub

I also know he married agnes Robertson in longside Aberdeenshire

I would love to know more about this man he is my grandfathers uncle ,

can anyone dig out more info on this man and his family


ryan

[JJen]

Hi,

By searching via Service number 7819, John Smith's Service record is available on FindMyPast. You may be able to access this free of charge at your local library.

He attested on 3 Dec 1901 but was discharged for making a false answer on attestation.

Father - John Smith, 106 Perth Road, Dundee.

JJ

[ryan37]

thanks for info ,  im puzzled as johns father wasn't john


ryan

[Annette7]

I would suggest the service record is not for your John - there were 2/3 others of this name born in Peterhead around the same time, one of whom was son of a John.

As given already this John Smith attested 3/12/1901 and was discharged 31/1/1902 so only 6 weeks service.   He enlisted in Dundee, occupation Labourer and father was a John in Dundee (address already given).

Your John Smith was already a Blacksmith at this time and still ensconced in Peterhead which was still his address when he married in 1904.   I really don't think he'd have travelled 100 miles to enlist in Dundee describing himself as a labourer, son of a John. 

Annette

[Annette7]

I have now found a service record for your John Smith - he enlisted at Aberdeen on 2/9/1915, aged 37 (so comes up with birth year of 1878 rather than 1879) of 68 Barclay Street, Stonehaven, Kincardine, occupation Shoeing Smith - Regiment: Army Service Corps - service no. 8583.   Wife shown as Agnes Robertson married 8/12/1904 and a son William Hardy Smith b.29/3/1908 Longside, Aberdeenshire.

He was discharged 18/2/1919 - cause of discharge 'wound to finger'.

I found the above on FindMyPast - Ancestry only seem to have some discharge papers.

Annette

[ryan37]

Thanks so much this opens up a whole new area for me as didn’t know much about this man

He is buried in Peterhead with his own family but it looks as if he had at least one son so could well be family out there somewhere

I appreciate your help

Ryan

[MaxD]

His record that Annette points to shows he served as a shoeing smith (a grade below a  farrier) in the Remount Service of the ASC.   Info here:
https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/regiments-and-corps/the-army-service-corps-in-the-first-world-war/the-army-service-corps-remounts-service/

He was at Swaythling for a very short time before going to France in March 1916.  It looks as if he was at the Base Depot at Peuplingues near Calais as his one minor misdemeanour was there and 10 Canadian General Hospital where his finger injury was looked at was in Calais and admitted him direct rather than going through an evacuation chain.

MaxD 

[ryan37]

Can’t seem to find the birth of William the son on Scotland’s people ?

Ryan

[rosie17]

Can’t seem to find the birth of William the son on Scotland’s people ?

Ryan

Hi Ryan have you checked this birth William Smith 1908 Peterhead  Ref 232/1/458

Rosie