Will of Roger Aylmer 1497

[WillowG]

Appointment of attorney
Reference: FC 94/L1/2/3
Title: Appointment of attorney
Description: Richard Aylemer, mercer, William Ruston and Thomas Panter, citizens of London, appoint John Aylemer of Wilby attorney to negotiate with Richard Manshep of Worlingworth, and John his son and Geoffrey Esthawe of Wingfield
Date: 5 Nov. 1403
Held by: Suffolk Record Office, Ipswich Branch, not available at The National Archives
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/4daab212-fb37-4954-8129-3d6458d8145b

Conveyance
Reference: FC 94/L1/2/4
Title:   Conveyance Description: Richard Aylemer, mercer, William Ruston, Thomas Panter, citisens of London, and John Aylemer of Wilbey, to Richard Manshep of Worlingworth, and John son of Geoffrey Esthawe of Wingfield; one acre of meadow called Clyntmeadow, with appurtenances in Worlingworth
Date: 4 Nov. 1417
Held by: Suffolk Record Office, Ipswich Branch, not available at The National Archives
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/b7d73570-9f59-4b2f-b882-7491e6823d65

Gift, for 20s., by Ralph son of William Aylmer of Wilibi, to Henry son of Warin de Wilibi
Reference: N3/615
Description: Gift, for 20s., by Ralph son of William Aylmer of Wilibi, to Henry son of Warin de Wilibi, of all the land which Warin, his father, held of him in the same vill, with all its liberties and appurtenances within the vill and without; to be held of the donor by the same services as his father Warin had rendered. Homage for this land has been done in Ralph's court at Wilibi, in the presence of Warin, Henry's father, and others of his friends; saving the custom of the vill should the eldest brother of Henry wish to hold the land.
Witnesses: Sir William Wigeyn, William "Clerico" of Wilibi, Henry son of Roger, Robert "albo", Robert "Campione", Roger de Walecote', Richard de Renuton', William (?Farat) Hume; and many others.
Date: No Date [late 13c.]
Held by: Warwickshire County Record Office, not available at The National Archives
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/3d34d36c-2d1e-4209-896e-fad79ca32a31

Thank you so much again!!! Stellar work, as always!

[WillowG]

The capital A didn't help!

Helpful isn't something that these people really ... do. *g*

[goldie61]

be don as hastely as it may resonably be do aft m(e)y decesse than I wull
that m(e)y seid feffes in all m(e)y seid landis and ten(emen)tes with thapp(er)ten(a)nces in the Cout
of Suff make astate thereof to Robt Aylemer m(e)y sone to holde  to hym for
terme of hys lyfe w(i)t(h)out impechement of Waste And yf it happen the seid
Robt do gete any Issue male in lawfulle matrimony aft my decesse than
I wull that all m(e) seid landes & ten(emen)tes w(i)t(h) thapp(er)ten(a)ntes in the seid towne of
Suff aft the decesse of the seid Robt remayne to the said Issue male
And to the eyres male of hys body lawfully ^begoton^ And for the defawte of
suche Issue male I wull that all the seid landes & ten(emen)tes with app(er)ten(a)ntes
in the seid Coounte of Suff remayne to Thomas Aylmer my sone
And to the heyres male of hys Body lawfully begoton. And for the de-
fawte of suche Issue lawfully of male of hys body lawfully comy(n)g

I wull that All the seid landes & ten(emen)tes with thapp(er)ten(a)ntes in the seid counte
of Suff remayne to Edmund Aylemer m(e)y sone & to the heyres male of
hys body lawfully comy(n)g And for the defawte of Suche Issue male
of the body of the same Edmud lawfully comy(n)g I wull that all the seid
landes & ten(emen)tes with app(er)ten(a)ntes in the seid Counte of Suff remayne to John
Brampton of Brampton Sone of Thomas Brampton of Brampton
And to the heyers and Assignes of the same John for ever more p(ro)vided
alway that the seid landes & ten(emen)tes with thapp(er)ten(a)ntes in the seid Counte
of Suff in no wyse aft m(e)y decesse remayne to Arthure(?) son of
Sybyll the wyfe of the seide Robert m(e)y sone Also I wull that John Aylmer
m(e)y sone have m(e)y cloos cleped(?) Westfeld with a pyrhtell(?) called lawer
and a Wode called Batemannys Wode lying be Batemansyerd  And a


Wouldn't guarantee the 'Bramptons'. That capital letter could be anything!

[goldie61]

Point of interest HD and Bookbox.
Do you think the little curl on the 't' in 'aft' - which occurs quite a lot, could be taken as the sign for 'er', making all the 'aft' words 'after'?
The scribe uses quite a lot of 'curls' at the end of words to show for missing letters.

[Bookbox]

Point of interest HD and Bookbox.
Do you think the little curl on the 't' in 'aft' - which occurs quite a lot, could be taken as the sign for 'er', making all the 'aft' words 'after'?
The scribe uses quite a lot of 'curls' at the end of words to show for missing letters.

I think all these should be transcribed as aft(er).

[horselydown86]

Just to follow up some matters raised in goldie's latest:

I agree with Brampton and Arthur(e).

Also agree with the transcription of cleped.

This is a survivor from the Middle English yclept = called/named.

See:  https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/yclept#English

The other word on that line is pyghtell.

See:  https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/pightle

I read the name of the pyghtell as lawes.

[goldie61]

Point of interest HD and Bookbox.
Do you think the little curl on the 't' in 'aft' - which occurs quite a lot, could be taken as the sign for 'er', making all the 'aft' words 'after'?
The scribe uses quite a lot of 'curls' at the end of words to show for missing letters.

I think all these should be transcribed as aft(er).

Thanks Bookbox.
It seemed more appropriate.

[WillowG]

Thank you so much, Goldie, Bookbox and HD!!! You are wonderful! This is great!

to Robt Aylemer m(e)y sone to holde to hym for terme of hys lyfe w(i)t(h)out impechement of Waste And yf it happen the seid Robt do gete any Issue male in lawfulle matrimony aft my decesse than I wull that all m(e) seid landes & ten(emen)tes w(i)t(h) thapp(er)ten(a)ntes in the seid towne of Suff aft the decesse of the seid Robt remayne to the said Issue male And to the eyres male of hys body lawfully ^begoton^ And for the defawte of suche Issue male I wull that all the seid landes & ten(emen)tes with app(er)ten(a)ntes in the seid Coounte of Suff remayne to Thomas Aylmer my sone

And here we have Robert and Thomas! Should we then take a wild guess that it was Roger who was married to Elizabeth de Wood and that it indeed was her relative above? We shall see what the rest of the will reveals

I wull that All the seid landes & ten(emen)tes with thapp(er)ten(a)ntes in the seid counte of Suff remayne to Edmund Aylemer m(e)y sone

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So Edmund was his son, not his brother! I had not expected to get a relationship between them so neatly confirmed! This was a wholly unexpected treat!

So Alexander and Frances Aylmer the Elder were first cousins! And Frances Aylmer the Elder and Frances Aylmer the Younger were first cousins once removed.

Also I wull that John Aylmer m(e)y sone

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A new John!!!!!!!!!!!

Or alternatively:

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The same John!!!!!!!!!!!

Now we have potentially three John Aylmers of the right age to be the Bishop's father

John Aylmer, the son of Roger (!!!)

John Aylmer, the nephew of Thomas (probably not the same as the above).

And a John Aylmer mentioned together with Sir Laurence Aylmer and a Thomas Aylmer in 1488 (could be the son of Roger, probably not the nephew of Thomas, who was not of age in 1500).

And any of these could be the John Aylmer of Pulham in 1520 Excellent!

And to the heyers and Assignes of the same John for ever more p(ro)vided alway that the seid landes & ten(emen)tes with thapp(er)ten(a)ntes in the seid Counte of Suff in no wyse aft m(e)y decesse remayne to Arthure(?) son of Sybyll the wyfe of the seide Robert m(e)y sone

Ouch.

[WillowG]

Wouldn't guarantee the 'Bramptons'. That capital letter could be anything!

I agree with Brampton and Arthur(e).

I agree that it's Brampton as well!

Allow me to direct your attention to the following entry in the Visitations of Norfolk:

Olyve Aylmer, daughter of Roger Aylmer, married to Thomas Brampton of Brampton (d.1505). Children: Elizabeth, John, Anne
https://archive.org/stream/visitacionievisi32ryew#page/46/search/Aylmer

Olive Aylmer, daughter of Richard Aylmer of Tatenton in Suffolk (same Olive, different first name of father given)
https://archive.org/stream/visitacionievisi32ryew#page/50/search/Aylmer

(I have mentioned before my belief that that Tatington or Tatyngton is Tannington in Suffolk. If you take a look at the record below I think you will agree with me that it is but a short step from Tadyngton to Tatington:

Feoffment
Reference: HD 1538/183/9
Title:   Feoffment
Description: 1. Thomas Bernagge, chaplain
John Aylmer of Tunstall
2. George Nycoll of Tadyngton [Tannington]
John Seman sen.
John Gardener of Denyngton [Dennington]
(1) to (2), all their lands and tenements in towns of Wannesden [Wantisden], Chesilford [Chillesford], Butley, Blaxhale [Blaxhall], Tunstall and Rendylysham [Rendlesham]; to hold of chief lords of fees for accustomed services. Witnesses: Edward Rous, esq., Robert Petyte, John Thorn' and many others. Given at Wannesden, 21 May 1 Hen. VII.
Date: 21 May 1486
Held by: Suffolk Record Office, Ipswich Branch, not available at The National Archives)

Thomas Brampton, Esq. eldest son to Robert, was lord here; and in 1489 bought of the prior of Montjoy in Heverlond, the heath and land called Hasock's, and added them to the manor; he married Olive, daughter of Robert Aylmer of Tattington in Suffolk, Esq. and died after 1499; but the memorial of his interment being gone, I cannot fix the time certainly, though he was dead before 1505; but in a window I find:

Brampton impaling Aylmer, arg. on a cross sab. between four Cornish choughs proper five bezants.
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/topographical-hist-norfolk/vol6/pp430-440

In the first south window of the south aisle were three shields of arms: Aylmer impaling Brampton, a defective coat attributed by Kemp to Woods, and Burston. Norris says that the first coat is reversed and belonged to Thomas Brampton of Brampton, Esq., and Olive his wife, daughter of Roger Aylmer of Tatenton (Tattingstone?) in Suffolk, and that the said Thomas flourished in the 1460s. This would correspond with the date of the other glass here. Martin also saw several crowned T’s and A’s in this window.
http://www.cvma.ac.uk/publications/digital/norfolk/sites/taverham/history.html

Thomas Brampton of Brampton was Roger Aylmer's son-in-law and John Brampton of Brampton was his grandson

Olive's grandson Robert Brampton (d.1547) of Brampton later marries Joane or Jane Cobbe (d.1558), the daughter of Geoffrey Cobb (d.1538) and his wife Alice, Sir Laurence Aylmer's daughter
https://archive.org/stream/visitacionievisi32ryew#page/50/search/Aylmer
https://archive.org/stream/visitacionievisi32ryew#page/78/search/Aylmer
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/topographical-hist-norfolk/vol6/pp430-440

Their daughter, Olive's great-granddaughter Alice Brampton (d.1595), marries a William Aylmer of Suffolk in 1543.
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/topographical-hist-norfolk/vol6/pp430-440

We have two William Aylmer's of approximately the right generation, Sir Laurence's son William Aylmer, esquire, and Alexander Aylmer's son and heir William Aylmer

Of course, we also have this:

Norfolk Record Society Manuscripts
CatalogueRef: NRS 5865, 18D4
Title:   Tivetshall. Release. Thomas Brampton of Brampton, Esq. to Thomas Aylmer, Esq. son of Roger Aylmer Esq., John Jenney Esq. and others.
Date: 24 May 1497
Description: Seal tag. Latin.
Level: Piece
Repository: Norfolk Record Office
http://nrocat.norfolk.gov.uk/DServe/DServe.exe?dsqServer=NCC3CL01&dsqIni=Dserve.ini&dsqApp=Archive&dsqCmd=Show.tcl&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqPos=95&dsqSearch=%28%28text%29%3D%27Aylmer%27%29

Just to follow up some matters raised in goldie's latest:

I agree with Brampton and Arthur(e).

Also agree with the transcription of cleped.

This is a survivor from the Middle English yclept = called/named.

See:  https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/yclept#English

The other word on that line is pyghtell.

See:  https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/pightle

I read the name of the pyghtell as lawes.

I loved this so very much Words from Middle English! Dialect! Pyghtell is such a cute word

Thank you so much again, all three of you! Reading what you have written is always such a pleasure!