Saunders ( Saunders Loder )

[margaretspriggs]

I am looking for the birth place of James Saunders ( Saunders Loder ).  I have found the following on family search.

John George Sanders or Loader England birth and Christening, 1538 - 1975
Birth 10 April 1839. Christening 30 April 1848 St Marks Kennington Surrey England
Father John Sander or Loader.   Mother Mary Sander or Loader.

This is not the person I am looking for however it maybe a lead. James Saunders was here in New Zealand in 1843.   Would be very grateful for any help. There is no certification in New Zealand that gives his parents name that I no of. Cheers

[CaroleW]

Welcome to Rootschat

When was James born?

Do you know for sure he was born in England

[WHITMORE]

James drowned in the Waitaki river in 1862 at the age of 40 according to the other information I have. So that would make him born in 1822, however he was on board the whaling ship Mary and Elizabeth in May of 1834 so that would make him 12 years old. The Mary and Elizabeth picked up ex convicts from Hobart to sail the ship - James, may have been one of these men. If he was a convict he would have served at least seven years in Hobart before joining the crew of the whaling ship. So how old was he - I feel much older than the 40 years stated on the documentation I have but I don't know. Cheers

[CaroleW]

Hi

So is there any evidence to link him to England apart from the 1848 baptism?

Are Whitmore and MargaretSpriggs one and the same person or linked in some other way?