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1939 register abbreviation
« on: Friday 05 October 18 15:06 BST (UK) »
Hi

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Could anyone assist me in understanding what this abbreviation means. It as been overwritten upon a persons entry in the 1939 register. The lady was aged 47yrs at the time of the register and was married.

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Re: 1939 register abbreviation
« Reply #1 on: Friday 05 October 18 15:15 BST (UK) »
It would be useful to know the name, location, and birth date of the person so we can do some digging.  My first instinct would be an event on 30/6/54 but whether this relates to a death or other event I can't tell.

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Re: 1939 register abbreviation
« Reply #2 on: Friday 05 October 18 15:31 BST (UK) »
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Beatrice A Robertshaw br 7/9/1892 residing Pudsey in 1939 wife of Joseph. I believe she died in 1961 Middlesbrough. There are family connections there.

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Re: 1939 register abbreviation
« Reply #3 on: Friday 05 October 18 15:52 BST (UK) »
Death:
March qtr 1961
Middlesboro Registration District     vol 1b, page 909
Robertshaw, Beatrice A     age 68

I have to add that the notation looks more like 30/6/84 to me?
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Re: 1939 register abbreviation
« Reply #4 on: Friday 05 October 18 16:22 BST (UK) »
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Beatrice A Robertshaw br 7/9/1892 residing Pudsey in 1939 wife of Joseph. I believe she died in 1961 Middlesbrough. There are family connections there.

Thanks

John

Death:
March qtr 1961
Middlesboro Registration District     vol 1b, page 909
Robertshaw, Beatrice A     age 68

I have to add that the notation looks more like 30/6/84 to me?

OK - so not a death.  Thinking caps back on, everyone!  It could well be 30/6/84 with a very light upstroke on the 8.

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Re: 1939 register abbreviation
« Reply #5 on: Friday 05 October 18 16:51 BST (UK) »
If anyone is thinking 84 for the year then it has to be 1984. It can't be 1884 as that would be before she was born.

A lot of these notations are ones added by the NHS when they used the 1939 for their purposes.  What is the MID meant to mean?  Who knows?  ???

The likelihood of anyone discovering what these notations mean is pretty remote.  Some can be guessed at, others just leave you scratching your head.
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White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: 1939 register abbreviation
« Reply #6 on: Friday 05 October 18 17:50 BST (UK) »
As she died in 1961, I think the date is more likely to be (19)54 rather than (19)84, as I think it is more likely there be reason to add a note during her lifetime than 23 years after she died (although not totally out of the question).
Looking at the original image, in the same hand and ink it has "BEATRICE" (so maybe they felt the name wasn't clear enough), then "Ref [then something I can't work out] MID 30/6/54" (assuming '54 is right obviously).
During a previous life when I worked on records for a civil service-type organisation, I think the MID and date might be the initials of the person or their department who made the amendment on that date. Probably the important part is the word after "Ref" (or it might be one larger word beginning with Ref.........).

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Re: 1939 register abbreviation
« Reply #7 on: Friday 05 October 18 18:08 BST (UK) »
It looks like 84 to me.

2 lines further down on the original image is another Beatrice Robertshaw. I wonder if someone mixed the two up when adding a note. Do you know anything about the second one?
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Re: 1939 register abbreviation
« Reply #8 on: Friday 05 October 18 18:12 BST (UK) »
I think the date is 1954. It seems most unlikely an annotation would be added in 1984 when she died in 1961 (as ReadyDale has already said)

Might MID simply refer to Middlesbrough where she eventually died in 1961 ?

Possibly she re-located there in 1954, and it was thought necessary at that time to amend the register to clarify her name? The code would indicate the place and date on  which the amendment was made.
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