Author Topic: Why can't I find Francis James Hughes death? Tips appreciated  (Read 3700 times)

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Re: Why can't I find Francis James Hughes death? Tips appreciated
« Reply #27 on: Monday 08 October 18 19:05 BST (UK) »
He was Francis James Hughes and, yes, he was born 16/06/1892 and married 24/03/1913.

The last electoral roll entry I've found, so far, is 1954.  The 1960 entry isn't him.  The 1960 entry relates to a Francis J Hughes who was living with a Matilda Hughes (and he has an entry at the same address in 1954 too).

My Francis' wife was Mildred Violet Dorothy Hughes.  As her name is less common I've been doing the traces using her name.  I'm wondering if he retired and they moved or if he died and she moved.  Her death is registered in St Albans and the Herts electoral roll doesn't appear to be available online yet.

(I've found a Francis E Hughes still living in Islington in 1957, if he's their youngest son Mildred didn't move away to live with him.)

I have tried newspaper traces using a wide range of key word searches but have had no joy.  What would be the best local newspaper for someone living in Islington?

I've found nothing on the grave search websites so far for Mildred or Francis.  (I thought her grave could give me some clues if I could find it.)

Are Railway Employee records available through Ancestry.co.uk?  If so, what are they listed under as I can't find them.  If not, where would I find them?


Iolaus - your comment got be thinking, if he drove a train to Glasgow and had a heart attack and died there - would his death be registered there or at his home address?  I assume they'd transport his body back home on a train...

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Re: Why can't I find Francis James Hughes death? Tips appreciated
« Reply #28 on: Monday 08 October 18 20:43 BST (UK) »
Hopefully the below link will take you to ancestry's railway employee records.

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1728

If it doesn't or you can't use it then Google Railway Employee Records and go from there.  Pick the Ancestry link.
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Re: Why can't I find Francis James Hughes death? Tips appreciated
« Reply #29 on: Monday 08 October 18 22:21 BST (UK) »
Yes, that link works.  Unfortunately it doesn't bring up anything with the various combinations I'm trying.

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Re: Why can't I find Francis James Hughes death? Tips appreciated
« Reply #30 on: Monday 08 October 18 22:32 BST (UK) »
When I did it, it came up with one Francis and four Franks. I couldn't check the details as I didn't have a sub.

Do I take it that none of them are your Francis/Frank?
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Re: Why can't I find Francis James Hughes death? Tips appreciated
« Reply #31 on: Monday 08 October 18 22:40 BST (UK) »
Nothing that appeared to match.  Unfortunately, Francis/Frank was common at the time and Hughes is not unusual either.

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Re: Why can't I find Francis James Hughes death? Tips appreciated
« Reply #32 on: Friday 12 October 18 23:36 BST (UK) »
Another post here - I have asked moderator to merge it with this post

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=801873.msg6596892#msg6596892

Until you buy a copy of Mildred's death cert to establish whether she was a widow at that time - you have no timescale for his death.

If she was a widow in 1960 then you are looking for a death 1954-1960.  If Francis reported her death - then you are looking post 1960

Deaths from 1969 show full birth date (assuming whoever reported the death had that info) but prior to 1969 it's age only   

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