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Re: Haniel Davies 1827/8 - 1892
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 11:34 BST (UK) »
I did check online (Findmypast where most of the Denbigh and Merioneth parish records are) but found nothing. I'd appreciate anything you can find.

Many thanks, Gordon.

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Re: Haniel Davies 1827/8 - 1892
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 12:13 BST (UK) »
Briefly, there is a marriage between an  Edward Davies and Elizabeth Roberts in 1827, Llangollen. Elizabeth is of the parish of Llantysilio. I noticed this as Edward's signature is very similar to the 1808 marriage - but bachelor/widower, etc. So maybe the all wrote similarly.

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Re: Haniel Davies 1827/8 - 1892
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 12:37 BST (UK) »
I see that Elizabeth is a widow on the 1851(Pandy Uchaf still )  and born Glyndyfrdwy.  This might be a hint that she was the Elizabeth Roberts who married and Edward Davies in 1827, Llangollen.

Do you have any birth registrations for the children b. post 1837?
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Re: Haniel Davies 1827/8 - 1892
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 20:07 BST (UK) »
hat happened to Benjamin Baptised 10 Nov 1828, LLansanttraid GC.? It has them as living Nantyr. Edward given as a shoemaker, which he was on the  1841.

I've not found a burial and not sure about the civil reg - 2 in Corwen RD one in 1841 and one in 1844.

I don't know if you've followed him but Haniel, aged 11 on the 1841 would fit with Benjamin's dates.


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Added - no Nathaniels 
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Re: Haniel Davies 1827/8 - 1892
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 08:52 BST (UK) »
Just to fill in a census,I think in 1861 the family are at RG09/4313/60/7
Coed y Glyn,Above Lavar

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Re: Haniel Davies 1827/8 - 1892
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 11 October 18 16:52 BST (UK) »
Thanks Gadget, Roger,

I did notice Benjamin's baptism but I think he's Edward and ELizabeth's son. The fact that Haniel died at the age of 64 in January 1892 suggests to me that he was born sometime in 1827 and therefore Edward's son by a previous marriage (or yes, he could possibly have been born out of wedlock).

Haniel/Nathaniel hadn't occurred to me though. An interesting thought.

Thanks again, Gordon

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Re: Haniel Davies 1827/8 - 1892
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 11 October 18 18:19 BST (UK) »
He was 11 on the 1841 (June)*  census which made me think that the date of birth search  might be widened. I still think that the 1827 Llangollen marriage could be considered for Edward and Elizabeth. Did they have any children after 1837?

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(The latest Win10 update threw my laptop out of kilter so eventually I had to do a system restore. Hence I've not done much searching)

*Added - also 60 on the 1891 found by JJen
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Re: Haniel Davies 1827/8 - 1892
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 11 October 18 19:00 BST (UK) »
On the 1841 census there's a Thomas, born 1838.
What drew me to the 1828 marriage was that one of the witnesses was a Benjamin Davies. It's not that common a name so I thinking that the son was named after another family member. However that's just speculation on my part.

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Re: Haniel Davies 1827/8 - 1892
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 11 October 18 19:45 BST (UK) »
Only Thomas that matches on the GRO index RD Corwen is Sept Q, MMN Edwards  :)
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