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Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« on: Tuesday 09 October 18 15:06 BST (UK) »
If a marriage certificate 1914 says:

Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of S Andrews in the County of Leeds - how does one find out which Church that is/was?

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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 15:20 BST (UK) »
I would say that the church is St Andrew  :-\

Added:  I assume that this is the heading on the marriage certificate!
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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 15:41 BST (UK) »
Assume so.

"St Andrew"

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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 15:42 BST (UK) »
There were a few churches in and around Leeds dedicated to St Andrew. I can think of a couple of possible ways to work out which one it was, but there may be others.

First, if you have access to Ancestry, you can find the marriage register there (as BumbleB appears to have done) and click the icon on the right for source information. This should give you a reference number to look up in the West Yorkshire Archives online catalogue, and this ought to give full details.

Alternatively, still at Ancestry, if you look at the title page of the register it might give more information about the church's location.

The second approach would be to look up the marriage at Yorkshire BMD - http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/  This will give you a reference which starts with a code for the church. Then go to the marriage coverage page for Leeds (http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/marrcov.php?region=LS) and find the church with that code.

As I don't have the marriage details I haven't been able to try either of these methods, so it would be good if you could let us know whether either of them actually works.
Researching among others:
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Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 15:58 BST (UK) »
WYAS do have St Andrew - 1845-1958 - RDP62.

Records on Ancestry start also in 1845 for marriages.

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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 16:09 BST (UK) »
thanks guys.

I have it on my Ancestry sub.

Where is the reference to tell me which Church specifically it would be?

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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 16:23 BST (UK) »
Okay the church code is CE38

"St Andrew,Leeds"

...which leads us back to the same quandary as an earlier post points out that 'There were a few churches in and around Leeds dedicated to St Andrew.'

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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 16:27 BST (UK) »
I suggest that you contact WYAS - they are usually very helpful.  It looks as though Ancestry have not deemed it necessary to show the front pages of the registers.

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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 17:06 BST (UK) »
It seems that the WYAS reference RDP62 relates to Leeds St George and newer parishes that were created out of it. I've inferred this from their guide to parish registers:
http://www.wyjs.org.uk/media/69612/collection-guide-1-parish-registers.pdf

and the page in the catalogue where St Andrew's appears under the overall heading of St George:
http://www.catalogue.wyjs.org.uk/CalmView/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=LDR1963%2f2

The National Index of Parish Registers (book) notes that St Andrew, Cavendish Street was a parish created in 1844 from Leeds St George, with which it was reunited in 1959. So that looks like the one you want. St Andrew's church had been demolished by 1966.

On a very quick search at the Leodis site I found a couple of photos:
http://www.leodis.org/display.aspx?resourceIdentifier=3381
http://www.leodis.org/display.aspx?resourceIdentifier=2003424_63627261

A longer look might produce more and/or better ones.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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