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Astons of Aston's Fold, Hay Green, Lye
« on: Tuesday 09 October 18 18:23 BST (UK) »
Is there anyone also researching the Aston Family Tree?

My Dad's Great Grandad, John Raybould (Baptised: 13 Sept 1846 - ?) married Mary Aston (christened on 8 November 1847 - ?) Not sure when she died but she was around for her grandaughter Elizabeth "Lizzie" Raybould's marriage to Lawson Hamblett on 20 June 1915 at Primehoe Methodist Chapel, Love Lane, Stourbridge. We have a photo of members of the Raybould family at the wedding.

John and Mary's children: -

Thomas "Tom" Raybould (1867 - 1946)
Honor Elizabeth Raybould (11 Dec 1872 - 30 April 1949)
Martha Raybould (1875 - 1 Dec 1949 at 7, Stour Hill, Quarry Bank)
Clara Jane Raybould (8 July 1877 - 17 July 1941)
Arthur Joseph/Joseph Arthur (13 October 1880 - 18 Feb 1958) He was born Joseph Arthur but was known as Arthur (Grandad to my Dad).
Elizabeth Mabel Raybould (1882 - 28 August 1955 at Queensland, Australia)
Alice Raybould (1885 - ?)
Benjamin Joseph Raybould (1887 - 3 Aug 1930 in a mining accident at Homer Hill Colliery, Halesowen)


I have been researching ancestors of Mary Aston whose family were connected to Aston's Fold, Hay Green, Lye and finding census records, etc., hopefully on the right track, have come up with her parents as: -

Zachariah Aston (Bapt: 14 May 1815 - 1849) married Elizabeth "Betsy" Cartwright (Bapt: 31 July 1814 - 1866)

Their marriage took place at Kinfayre (Kinver), Staffordshire on 18 March 1838 and their children are: -

John Aston (Bapt: 27 Dec 1840 - ?) Did he die during 1913?
Joseph Aston (Bapt: 15 Jan 1843 - 1913) married Mary Travis/Trevis?
Richard Aston (Bapt: 24 Nov 1846 - 1928) married Jane Maria Bashford
Mary Aston (Bapt: 8 Nov 1847 - ?) married John Raybould
Martha (Bapt: 17 Aug 1850 - ?)

Now for the hard part in finding the correct John Aston (1796 - ?) and Mary (how do I find out her surname?) (1796 - ?) as parents for Zachariah and I have come up with this John Aston, christened on 6 July 1794, son of Zachary and Ann purely because they're still in Oldswinford area but from 1841 census record, John Aston should have been born around 1796?

I feel that the clue in finding correct members of the family lies with the FHL film numbers, which I don't have access to from my home computer as it says I have to access this via the library or a family tree centre but our local library no longer has the microfiche facility?

As all this research is what I've done via Ancestry.com and Family Research, I'm hoping I have the correct parents and grandparents of Mary Aston (christened on 8 November 1847 - ?)?
Hoping someone on here will be able to confirm these records or advise me how to access the FHL film numbers or another way of finding hard to find sources?

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Re: Astons of Aston's Fold, Hay Green, Lye
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 01:04 BST (UK) »
Posting here so you dont loose it

Name:   John Aston
Spouse's Name:   Mary Aston
Event Date:   26 Jun 1814
Event Place:   Kingswinford, Stafford, England

Found on family Search

England Marriages, 15381973
DEWSTOWE/DUSTOW, WADE, REED, ROGERS, GARRETT, HAY, KERR, BAS-TED HUSBAND  COOKE/COOK, GOWER, JEFFREYS,DAVIES, OATES or OATS, , GREASLEY/GREASLY, BIRD, BOSWELL, WILLEY, WHEADON, PARKER, ABBOTT?(maybe not related), JONES, QUINN, SCOTT, ISBESTER or ISBISTER?, LLOYD, RICHARDS, WHETTALL
Names come from Redruth, Cornwall, Wales, Scotland and possibly Ireland. And other parts of England.
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Astons of Aston's Fold, Hay Green, Lye
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 01:55 BST (UK) »
Posting here so you dont loose it

Name:   John Aston
Spouse's Name:   Mary Aston
Event Date:   26 Jun 1814
Event Place:   Kingswinford, Stafford, England

Found on family Search

England Marriages, 15381973

Many thanks Floozy - much appreciated

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Re: Astons of Aston's Fold, Hay Green, Lye
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 09:43 BST (UK) »
Argh! Have also found another couple with same names marrying the day after!  :o

Name:   John Aston
Gender:   Male
Marriage Date:   27 Jun 1814
Marriage Place:   St. Mary'S, Kingswinford, Stafford, England
Spouse:   Mary Aston
FHL Film Number:   1040004
Reference ID:   130

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Re: Astons of Aston's Fold, Hay Green, Lye
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 10:05 BST (UK) »
FreeREG only has the Marriage as 27 June
Bride didnt sign, Witnesses Ann/James Deeley
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Re: Astons of Aston's Fold, Hay Green, Lye
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 10:21 BST (UK) »
Is this the 1841 Census you have four John/Mary?
West Bromwich, Staffs
John Arton, 50, Collier
Mary Arton, 45
John Arton, 19
Henry Arton, 15
William Arton, 14
Maria Arton, 11
Mary Arton, 8
Eliza Arton, 5
Edwd Arton, 2
Samuel Arton, 15




ASTON, EDWARD, Mothers mn ASTON***
GRO Reference: 1839  M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION  Volume 18  Page 468
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Re: Astons of Aston's Fold, Hay Green, Lye
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 10:41 BST (UK) »
Is this the 1841 Census you have four John/Mary?
West Bromwich, Staffs
John Arton, 50, Collier
Mary Arton, 45
John Arton, 19
Henry Arton, 15
William Arton, 14
Maria Arton, 11
Mary Arton, 8
Eliza Arton, 5
Edwd Arton, 2
Samuel Arton, 15




ASTON, EDWARD, Mothers mn ASTON***
GRO Reference: 1839  M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION  Volume 18  Page 468

No, mine is from Aston's Fold, Hay Green, Lye: -

1841 Census

Name
Cornelius Aston Age 20 Estimated Birth Year abt 1821 GenderMale
Where bornStaffordshire, England
Civil parish KingswinfordHundredNorth SeisdonCounty/IslandStaffordshireCountryEnglandRegistration districtStourbridgeSub-registration districtKingswinfordPiece996Book13Folio6Page number5Household Members

Name              Age

John Aston Age 45 (At the bottom of page 6, below his eldest son Zachariah and his family)
Mary Aston Age 45
Cornelius Aston Age 20
John Aston Age 15
Richard Aston Age 15
Elijah Aston Age 10
Benjamin Aston Age 5

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Re: Astons of Aston's Fold, Hay Green, Lye
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 13:09 BST (UK) »
I think this is the same marriage as the day before

Argh! Have also found another couple with same names marrying the day after!  :o

Name:   John Aston
Gender:   Male
Marriage Date:   27 Jun 1814
Marriage Place:   St. Mary'S, Kingswinford, Stafford, England
Spouse:   Mary Aston
FHL Film Number:   1040004
Reference ID:   130
DEWSTOWE/DUSTOW, WADE, REED, ROGERS, GARRETT, HAY, KERR, BAS-TED HUSBAND  COOKE/COOK, GOWER, JEFFREYS,DAVIES, OATES or OATS, , GREASLEY/GREASLY, BIRD, BOSWELL, WILLEY, WHEADON, PARKER, ABBOTT?(maybe not related), JONES, QUINN, SCOTT, ISBESTER or ISBISTER?, LLOYD, RICHARDS, WHETTALL
Names come from Redruth, Cornwall, Wales, Scotland and possibly Ireland. And other parts of England.
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Astons of Aston's Fold, Hay Green, Lye
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 18:54 BST (UK) »
FreeREG only has the Marriage as 27 June
Bride didnt sign, Witnesses Ann/James Deeley

Many thanks for the witnesses. Wonder if one of them is a relation so will look out for those names...