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Re: Joseph Manners Martha Carter Bitton
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 14 October 18 17:07 BST (UK) »
Presumably you have this certificate, what information does it give for Joseph and his father.  Who were the witnesses

Martha Carter
Joseph Manners
06 Oct 1879
Place   Bitton, St Mary
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Re: Joseph Manners Martha Carter Bitton
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 14 October 18 17:08 BST (UK) »
Where does the information that Joseph Manners is the father of William Isaac come from.  Does that record give anymore information on Joseph Manners
Hi Rosie,

I bought the birth certificate and it states MARTA CARTER mother and Father Not Known,

Church Baptism states  Martha Carter Mother and Joseph Manners as Father,

Church Parish records states also Joseph Manners as Father
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Re: Joseph Manners Martha Carter Bitton
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 14 October 18 17:15 BST (UK) »
Maybe  :-\
Attestation
Joseph Manners
Birth year   c 1854
Birth parish Hinton,  Somerset
Attestation date   07 Jun 1888
Attestation age    34yrs 8 months
Attestation  number   2211
3rd Battalion Gloucestershire Regiment
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Re: Joseph Manners Martha Carter Bitton
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 14 October 18 17:31 BST (UK) »
1881 has a married Joseph Manners age 26 occ Gardener bn Hinton lodging with John & Sarah Manners.  RG11 / 2445 f74 p10

1891 possibly in Keynsham RG12/1942 f112 p19 - bn Hinton -wife Lilly Rose and daughter Beatrice (bn Eastville).  Still with Lilly in 1911
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Re: Joseph Manners Martha Carter Bitton
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 14 October 18 17:37 BST (UK) »
Daughter Beatrice
Marriage June qtr 1905   
Manners    Francis Beatrice A M       
Wilkins    Jesse       
Bristol    6a   373

Births Jun qtr 1886 
MANNERS    Frances Beatrice  -Mothers maiden surname Blackmore    
Barton R.    6a   19

Marriages Sep 1890   
Manners Joseph
Blackmore    Lilly Rose        Barton R.    6a   265

ADDED
Deaths Jun 1919   
MANNERS    Lilly R    age 55   
Bristol    6a   192
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Re: Joseph Manners Martha Carter Bitton
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 14 October 18 17:44 BST (UK) »
Maybe  :-\
Attestation
Joseph Manners
Birth year   c 1854
Birth parish Hinton,  Somerset
Attestation date   07 Jun 1888
Attestation age    34yrs 8 months
Attestation  number   2211
3rd Battalion Gloucestershire Regiment
Thank you for your response,
Yes this is of interest, of which I am currently researching,
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Re: Joseph Manners Martha Carter Bitton
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 14 October 18 17:46 BST (UK) »
1881 has a married Joseph Manners age 26 occ Gardener bn Hinton lodging with John & Sarah Manners.  RG11 / 2445 f74 p10

1891 possibly in Keynsham RG12/1942 f112 p19 - bn Hinton -wife Lilly Rose and daughter Beatrice (bn Eastville).  Still with Lilly in 1911

Hi,
Yes I have also found this, but not sure, desperately trying to find a link somewhere in history, that confirms the research,
Carter

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Re: Joseph Manners Martha Carter Bitton
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 14 October 18 17:51 BST (UK) »
Daughter Beatrice
Marriage June qtr 1905   
Manners    Francis Beatrice A M       
Wilkins    Jesse       
Bristol    6a   373

Births Jun qtr 1886 
MANNERS    Frances Beatrice  -Mothers maiden surname Blackmore    
Barton R.    6a   19

Marriages Sep 1890   
Manners Joseph
Blackmore    Lilly Rose        Barton R.    6a   265

ADDED
Deaths Jun 1919   
MANNERS    Lilly R    age 55   
Bristol    6a   192

Beatrice Alice Matilda Manners Christening 06 Jan 1892 Downend, Gloucester
Father's Name   Joseph Manners Mother's Name   Lily Rose

15 Sep 1890  Bristol, Horfield, Gloucestershire
Joseph Manners single father Manners
Lilly Rose Blackmore single father William Blackmore

possible death entry

Joseph Manners age 70 (1854)
1924 Apr-May-Jun Bristol Gloucestershire
Volume   6A Page   164

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Re: Joseph Manners Martha Carter Bitton
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 14 October 18 18:06 BST (UK) »
Presumably you have this certificate, what information does it give for Joseph and his father.  Who were the witnesses

Martha Carter
Joseph Manners
06 Oct 1879
Place   Bitton, St Mary
Hi, firstly thank you for your help. I really appreciate it,

The Birth certificate, I have bought,  shows the mother as MARTHA CARTER, son William Isaac Carter,  father unknown,

church / parish registers shows the mother as MARTHA CARTER now this is what throws my research, shows the father as JOSEPH MANNERS CARTER,

the baptism also shows the both these names,
all dates match, and address etc, and I have no doubts about the mothers and sons name,
the son is in fact my great great grandfather, William Isaac Carter,

Carter