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Can anyone identify this church
« on: Wednesday 17 October 18 12:44 BST (UK) »
This was painted by my gt gt grandfather probably in the 1850's. He lived in Folkestone and most of his painting was done in the surrounding countryside. I've been searching on Google without success.
Does anyone recognise it?

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Re: Can anyone identify this church
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 17 October 18 13:11 BST (UK) »
 St Peter's Ditton - it looks similar so does St Peter and St Paul's Aylesford

Style may be common to several churches in the area
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Re: Can anyone identify this church
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 17 October 18 22:31 BST (UK) »
   Aylesford is a long way from Folkestone? It is not a church I can recognise, but I will have a think.
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Re: Can anyone identify this church
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 18 October 18 09:16 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the replies, I do think Aylesford is too far away.
I've been using a Kent parish map and working outwards from Folkestone, checking the church in each. So far the most likely I've found is Temple Ewell. Apparently it fell into bad disrepair by the 1860's and cows were housed inside part of the church. The rector started fundraising and by 1875 the church had been largely rebuilt. It does still have a few similarities to the painting.


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Re: Can anyone identify this church
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 18 October 18 14:11 BST (UK) »
I can see the similarities with Temple Ewell, though there are some significant differences too.

Temple Ewell has a north aisle - one website refers to it as the north chapel - which was apparently there before the 1870s restoration. The one in the picture doesn't.

The picture also shows a chancel with a lower roof than the nave, but pictures of Temple Ewell seem to show one continuous roof. It's easier to see this on photos taken from the south side, where the north aisle/chapel doesn't get in the way. However, I don't know whether this is part of the 1870s work or an original feature.

NB - there's a photo recognition board here with folk who love to get stuck in to this kind of thing (art works also accepted!). It might get a wider audience there - a moderator could move it if you wish.
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Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Can anyone identify this church
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 18 October 18 15:10 BST (UK) »
I did a google image match but didn't find anything that I could match with the painting. We don't know how much of the composition was real or how much was using artistic license . combining different elements creatively. It is a lovely thing to have though. It might be worth looking through old postcards for the area on ebay.
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Re: Can anyone identify this church
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 October 18 15:14 BST (UK) »
Do you know from his other works if he merely painted "what he saw" or used some artistic license?

That could be crucial as he may have changed details which would make it harder to identify.
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Re: Can anyone identify this church
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 18 October 18 15:34 BST (UK) »
It's hard to tell how much artistic license he used as most of his paintings are rural scenes or seascapes. This is one of the few which I thought might be identifiable, but realise that it is a long shot after 160 years.

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Re: Can anyone identify this church
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 04 November 18 12:01 GMT (UK) »
If you have the patience sort through this list of church images. I thought at first it was Luddenham but the window is wrong (Luddenham shows 2 windows at back).

http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Libr/VisRec/Intro.htm
Boulding Boulden Bollyng (all - mostly Kent)
Finch (Kent - Henry & Elizabeth (Fossett)  Finch m1687  London)
Foord (Kent - Aldington, Stanford area)
Philpot (Kent - Alexander Philpot died 1601 Ashford)
Waggon/Waghorn (Kent pre 1715)
Rose (Kent)