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Re: Eliza Halse born in 1831 Notting Hill London
« Reply #27 on: Friday 19 October 18 06:54 BST (UK) »
Always a bit tricky to be sure the extent of people's existing knowledge and how many certificates for the life events people have.
That is the reason for seeming to go over "old ground"

Eliza STOKES
Aged 84
At Ballarat, Victoria
Father Morrison
Year 1918
Reg 3792

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Re: Eliza Halse born in 1831 Notting Hill London
« Reply #28 on: Friday 19 October 18 07:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Sparett,
Yes it is difficult to find accurate information. But Morrison is a mystery as the family knew her as Halse. The problem is that sometimes people put all the names they found. Registration is not always accurate in Australia. I have the example of Eliza Halse Stokes's son who was declared married in Yorkshire but never went in England and he married in Perth before to go to  WW1 Gallipolli .

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Re: Eliza Halse born in 1831 Notting Hill London
« Reply #29 on: Friday 19 October 18 07:55 BST (UK) »
to Jamjar : Eliza Halse married Edward Sinnett on February 11th 1853 at St Paul's Church of England of Geelong, Victoria. Thank you.
But I have all these information, what I am looking for is her family in England.

Yes, I know. I asked because I was looking for her entry into SA, as you said that you didn’t know whether she came alone. Also, she couldn’t have arrived in 1850, if she was being baptised in England in 1852.

So, she arrived somewhere between 19 August 1852 and 11 February 1853.

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Atkinson; Badier; Cameron; Grant; Howie; Jardine; Jenkins; Kerr; Lawardorn; Lee; Linton; Lonie; McConnell; Morgan; Morrison; Murphy; O'Leary; Paton; Pratt; Robb; Williams

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Re: Eliza Halse born in 1831 Notting Hill London
« Reply #30 on: Friday 19 October 18 08:03 BST (UK) »
The certificates of her marriage to Richard STOKES and that of the death of Richard STOKES are published on an online tree.


On the marriage certificate she gives information that her parents are Joseph HALSE and Eliza BRUNKER.

Have you sighted this document or others relevant?
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Re: Eliza Halse born in 1831 Notting Hill London
« Reply #31 on: Friday 19 October 18 08:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Sparett,
Yes it is difficult to find accurate information. But Morrison is a mystery as the family knew her as Halse.

Looking back through the thread at the information given, you will see her mother remarried when ELiza was young and it looks as if the MORRISON name was used by all children from both marriages.

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Re: Eliza Halse born in 1831 Notting Hill London
« Reply #32 on: Friday 19 October 18 08:19 BST (UK) »
Charles Dodd, widower, married Eliza Morrison, widow, dau. of John Bronker, deceased.  Married 14/2/1849 St. Mary, Bryanston Square, London.   Witnesses Richard Laker and Harriet Laker.

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Thank you Annette that is exactly what I was hoping but could not access  ;D


Marriage Mar qtr 1849   
Dodd    Charles       
Morrison    Eliza       
Marylebone    1   178   

Does this marriage show online anywhere :-\
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Re: Eliza Halse born in 1831 Notting Hill London
« Reply #33 on: Friday 19 October 18 08:34 BST (UK) »
Yes, the parish register digitisation is available.

Shows Eliza MORRISON's father John BRUNKER etc.

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Re: Eliza Halse born in 1831 Notting Hill London
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 20 October 18 04:57 BST (UK) »
If she emigrated in 1850 then she can't be the 1852 baptism  ???

It looks like she was expected to arrive in SA.

Second last column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article48551075

What is her date of marriage in 1853?

Jamjar

A calculation of the approximate likely date for this marriage  (in the absence of information from Evelyne) at Christ Church Geelong

Using the index registration number of the marriage -23838- and year 1853, I have looked reg numbers for 1853 marriages preceding and following it and noted couples names.  With reg 23842 I found a marriage which was publicised in the Geelong paper. Not relevant whose it was, but the date was 18th Feb 1853.

I suspect, therefore, around that month in 1853 for Eliza's marriage would fit the index sequence.

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